1936 Jowett in Germany restore

[AlanBartlett]

Yes, they were definetley whitworth thread that I bought. Although looking on the website now they also do mixed bags of BSF too. Though like I said it wasn't a purist replacement of nuts and bolts which I'm pretty sure would have been BSF back in the day. It also looks like they will soon be discontinuing both threads.

http://www.namrick.co.uk/acatalog/Home_ ... s__48.html

[Keith Clements]

Alan,
BSW and BSF threads are used for different applications and the tightness and strength of the fixing may be compromised if the wrong thread is used. The correct thread should be used. The torque used on fasteners will depend on the thread and the tensile strength of the fastener. Also the locking mechanism of the fastener may depend on the vibration and flexibility of that which it is fastening. The castle or slotted nut with a pin was often used in prewar days before spring and fan washers and before thread locks such as Loctite. Such nuts can often result in the correct torque not being applied as you attempt to aling the hole for the pin. particular difficulty on maintain ing tightness will occur where there is aluminium due to diffrential expansion rates.

I try to use Loctite on all nuts and bolts, sometimes as well as the mechanical locking mechanism. Flat washers also help to spread the load (especially onto aly) and assist in correct torque setting. I know that torque settings may not exist for pre-war cars, but then they were assembled and maintained by guys with skills that did not rely on a torque wrench and workshop manual. Be careful using a modern mechanic as they are used to very high tensile bolts and are not sympathetic with older materials, which so why so many Jowett wheel studs are necked and heads studs are stripped.

So you pre-war guys, what should the threads be? BSF or BSW?

[James Baxter]

BSF.
The root diameter is larger because the thread is finer. Therefore the bolt is stronger.

But in cases where the bolt is fitted directly into a tapped hole for example in aluminium, then BSW is used, as the aluminium tensile strength is much lower than steel.

My rule of thumb is to final torque using a spanner, rather than a socket. Spanners have proportionally longer handles for bigger threads, and if the correct size spanner starts to hurt your hand, you are about there.

I stripped and snapped a lot of bolts and thread in order to come to that conclusion!!!!!!

[1936xxMarcelK]

Hello dear Jowett colleaugues,

@ Alan Bartlett:

Aber wenn es, auf der Rückseite der 1934/35 hilft Ersatzteil-Listen. Es sind verschiedene Größen aufgeführt, und ich denke Längen der Blitze. und einige Schrauben sind Teil, wo sie auf dem Auto sind nummeriert. Da die Liste Bilder verschiedener des Pre-Krieg-Autos hat. Möchtest du mich, das Buch zu scannen? Oder auf der Galerie ist? Aber es interessant wäre zu wissen, wie Sie mit dem Frühling erhalten alle Schäkel Schrauben? Da ich nicht weiß, ob Ersatz zur Verfügung stehen. Da sie nicht nur die U-Form Schrauben quadratisch aber um die Feder zu passen.

Sorry, I don´t really understand...
But you don´t mean the Jowett owners book, or?
How much number of pages will you scan for me?

Rind Regards


It seems to be different dialects...
I understand Keiths written dialect quite comprehensible, and plausible. (probably my Google Translator get acclimatize to Keiths dialect)
and thanks James Baxter for giving your experienced data.



Kind Regards

[Keith Clements]

Marcel,
I am glad you can understand some of what I say. It is probably 40 years of talking with, and teaching, people whose second language was English that makes the words used, phrasing and punctuation easier for translators to work. Have you ever tried feeding your writing into a translator and then feeding that translation back again into your own language? If it makes any sense, you are doing very well!

Ich bin froh, dass Sie einige von dem, was ich sage, zu verstehen. Es ist wahrscheinlich 40 Jahre im Gespräch mit, und Lehre, Menschen, deren zweite Sprache war Englisch, die die Wörter verwendet, Phrasierung und Satz einfacher für Übersetzer zu arbeiten macht. Haben Sie jemals versucht Fütterung Ihr Schreiben in einen Übersetzer und dann füttern, dass die Übersetzung wieder in Ihrer eigenen Sprache? Wenn es keinen Sinn macht, machst du sehr gut!

I'm glad that you understand some of what I say. It is probably 40 years in conversation with, and teaching people whose second language was English, which uses the words, makes it easier to work for translators phrasing and sentence. Have you ever tried feeding her writing into a translator and then feed that back translation in your own language? If it makes no sense, you're doing very well!

Ich bin froh, dass Sie verstehen, einige von dem, was ich sage. Es ist wahrscheinlich 40 Jahre im Gespräch mit, und Lehre Menschen, deren zweite Sprache war Englisch, die die Wörter verwendet, macht es einfacher, für Übersetzer Phrasierung und Satz zu arbeiten. Haben Sie jemals versucht füttert ihr Schreiben in einem Übersetzer und dann füttern, dass Rückübersetzung in Ihrer eigenen Sprache? Wenn es keinen Sinn macht, man tut sehr gut!

From this you see that using short sentences with simple phrasing is the only way to get a decent translation!

I am glad you can understand some of what I say. I taught people whose second language was English for 40 years. So I use simple words and phrases. Punctuation helps translators. Have you ever put your words into a translator and then translated the result back again? If it makes any sense after two translations, your writing was good!

Ich bin froh, dass Sie einige von dem, was ich sage, zu verstehen. Ich lehrte die Menschen, deren zweite Sprache war Englisch für 40 Jahre. So benutze ich einfache Wörter und Sätze. Zeichensetzung hilft Übersetzer. Haben Sie sich jemals stellen Sie Ihre Worte in einem Übersetzer übersetzt und dann das Ergebnis wieder zurück? Wenn es Sinn macht nach zwei Übersetzungen, Ihr Schreiben war gut!

I'm glad that you understand some of what I say. I taught the people whose second language was English for 40 years. So I use simple words and phrases. Punctuation helps translators. Have you ever put your words translated into one translator and then the result back? If it makes sense after two translations, your writing was good!

Ich bin froh, dass Sie verstehen, einige von dem, was ich sage. Ich lehrte die Menschen, deren zweite Sprache war Englisch für 40 Jahre. So benutze ich einfache Wörter und Sätze. Zeichensetzung hilft Übersetzer. Haben Sie sich jemals stellen Sie Ihre Worte in einem Übersetzer übersetzt und dann das Ergebnis zurück? Wenn es Sinn macht, nach zwei Übersetzungen, Ihr Schreiben war gut!

Of course, it helps if the English grammar is correct. Mine often is not as Amy, my daughter, often tells me.

[1936xxMarcelK]

Hello Jowett colleagues,
the project of Jowett restauration is still alive.
The carpenter is working at the woodbody.
the rest from the car is staying.
the screws are ready to use but my time is rare...

I wish you a good time and many fun to ride and screw Jowett!

Kind Regards
Marcel K.

[Chris Spencer]

Hi Marcel, Nice to know that you are still working hard, can you post some images of the restoration when you get chance ?

Regards

Chris

[1936xxMarcelK]

Hello Jowett Colleagues,
here a few Pictures from the my Jowett:
this Picture show the transport

[1936xxMarcelK]

the Jowett in cabinetmakers repair shop:

[1936xxMarcelK]

There is a lubrication nipple:
my grease press isn´t right for this nipple,
where can I get a suitable for this?

[ian Howell]

Marcel: -

What you have there is a 'push' type grease nipple and a 'hydraulic' type grease gun. As you already know - they don't fit!

You need either a 'push type' grease gun ( preferably so that you can use all the existing nipples. That would also be in keeping with the history of the car).

Alternatively you could replace ALL the grease nipples with modern hydraulic types. These were a much later development and are not consistent with the age of the car - but they do work much better!

The correct 'push' type greae gun is still available from Tecalemit in the UK for about £14.

Alternatively watch your local car boot stalls and autojumbles!

Happy hunting!

[1936xxMarcelK]

Oh, thank you!

I have looked in the garage and i found a compatible grease gun!
I grease all nipples on front axle, to see, what bearing bushes I have to replace.
all bushes from break leverage must be replace, all other bushes are ok.

the next step was going to a specialist and bring engine and both axials to ´dry ice´ , the things are very clean
you can see it

today I started the engine, it was great. to see and hear that.

[george garside]

proof positive of the efficacy of ''balanced power'' assuming it didn't jump off the pallet while running!

george

[1936xxMarcelK]

Hello,

on weekend I degraded and cleaned a part from my Jowett engine, still the bottom side must be clean.

Here a few pictures for you:

[1936xxMarcelK]

Please, can anybody help me wherefore all those screws are?

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Thank you!, I think that do you know in sleep...

Kind Regards Marcel K.