1936 Jowett in Germany restore

[Tony Fearn]

Hello Tony, the measurement is 472mm. are there several mudguard stay?

Hello again Marcel.

I have spoken with Jowett Car Spares and they said there are no mudguard stays in stock.
But I have a left side stay which I will send to you as a Christmas present, if you email your complete address to me.
The measurement is about 470mm. It also is rusted, but it is firm and will sandblast ok.
I have some old BSF/Whitworth spanners and sockets which I will also send to you. They will be useful until you buy your own new ones.

Tony.

[Tony Fearn]

Marcel,
The mudguard stay is on its way to Gschwend. I posted it this afternoon.
Tony.

[1936xxMarcelK]

Thank yoz Tony,
I'm so curious about the package

many greetings

[1936xxMarcelK]

Hello you Jowett fans,

I am still working to well the frame, If I have time for my Jowett.
But my aim for this year won`t fulfilled.
Than the Jowett will be sandblased again and galvanizing only in January. But its not so bad.

What was the colour of the frame original?
I have discovered a dark green and a black, bevore it was going to first sansblased.


Greetings from Germany

Marcel

[1936xxMarcelK]

hello,


does nobody know the orginal colour for the frame?
or do you haven't time to write, because you have to bring the snow away from street?


here in germany, it is winter and we have a lot of snow.

greetings marcel

[Tony Fearn]

Hello Marcel,

I think that the chassis frame and the cross-tubes were black.

When I first removed the 'paint' from the underside of the wings of my saloon in 1963 I found that they were not covered by paint. They were covered by tar (?'teer' in German).

I think this might have been original because when the tar was removed, the metal beneath was bright and shiny.

Also, if you are having the chassis galvanised, then take some expert advice on what type of paint is needed for the first coat.

Best wishes for Christmas and the New Year,

Tony.

[george garside]

Tony - could the 'tar' have been what used to be refered to as 'chassis black' which without knowing precisely what it was seemed to be a sort of tarry paint!

george

[Chris Spencer]

Marcel - If you are having the chassis galvanised - it will require painting with a self etching primer over the galvanised finish prior to be painted black - otherwise the black paint will not adhere to the gavinised treatment / or flake off

Regards Chris

[Tony Fearn]

Tony - could the 'tar' have been what used to be refered to as 'chassis black' which without knowing precisely what it was seemed to be a sort of tarry paint!

Hi George,

I vaguely remember that the 'tar' came off in big flakes with the scraper, and had a hard shellac-like finish. I only had to remove it because of stone chippings going through to the metal, forming rust spots. My mum and I (1962) also brush-painted the bodywork black with Valspar paint. The advert for it in the automobile press showed a Rover 10 done with it.

'Chassis black' was also very gooey (?spelling) in the old days, and a few coats of it probably gave the finish I remember.

I still have 1/2 a tin somewhere, but surely it will be hard by now!!

Chris:- Thanks for the input about the primer.

Tony.

[1936xxMarcelK]

Hello Tony,
Yes, it can be right, I had seen a rest of black color, also I had seen a rest of green color of the chassie...
I don´t think, that the chassie was be ter originally, do you think so?


Hello Georg
I think its most orininal, if i paint the chassie `Tiefschwarz Ral 9005` , what do you think?

Hello Chris,
Thank you for irformation, but I know and have experience with recoat of galvanised material.
I use a 2K Epoxid Ground at chromat basic!, expectually for oldtimer. Its very bad medicine, but its the best ground ever!
Anyway I must take a mask for breathable air.


Thank you for answers, and have a happy pre-Christmas period.

[Chris Spencer]

Thank you for irformation, but I know and have experience with recoat of galvanised material.
I use a 2K Epoxid Ground at chromat basic!, expectually for oldtimer. Its very bad medicine, but its the best ground ever!
Anyway I must take a mask for breathable air.

Ok - Marcel knows exactly what he is doing - for those of us that don't - he will painting the the chassis in a 2 pack paint - this is a synthetic paint to which you add / mix a catalyst hardner to just proir to spraying - the chemical reaction acts to cure & harden the paint. It is a very easy product to apply with excellent coverage and is very durable & hard wearing . However, you must not ever use these products if you do not have access to the correct facilities - the paint adheres just as well to the human respiratory system (and anything else) as it does to cars - the wearing of a full face air fed mask & disposable coveralls is critical in the use of these products. (Just so happens that my lovely yet practical wife has advised stanta that I need such a mask for Christmas)

RAL 9005 - Is a colour code for Jet Black and is more than suitable for the cars chassis

[1936xxMarcelK]

Hello,
You are right, chris.
Do you paint with air, self?
Do you paint with air in garage or in a box with fresh air and exhaust air?

[Chris Spencer]

Marcel - Yes I do my own paintwork - but mainly with the old system of cellouse paints - all flatting, preperation & polishing by hand - we have a seperate area in the workshop for when we are painting with fan / fume extraction but we do not have a modern heated / vented spraybooth - none the less we still obtain good results with the facilities that we have - I will post some images of the previous work that has been done.

Regards Chris

[1936xxMarcelK]

Chris - Okay, you spray only your Jowett as hobby, you don´t spray daily at work?
What for job do you make?
What is cellouse paints system, in German perhaps Kunstharz lack?

[1936xxMarcelK]

I wish you and your families a nice christmas time!
I hope, you will enjoy the relaxx time and eat a lot of christmasroast!


Best christmaswishes from Gschwend in Germany
Marcel Kelldorfner