Does anyone else have trouble with the time taken to load JowettTalk or the Gallery from the 'Favourites' list, or could it be a fault with my computer?
Is there anything I can do to speed-up the process?
I regularly use 'Ccleaner' and empty the temporary internet files and history and cookies etc.
Tony.
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The issue is not your machine, it is to do with overall server loads, how well the boards/gallery call from the data base, and bandwidth.
The main issue on local machine spped is the modern virus scanners, they are way too heavy use far too much ram and scan stuff they dont need to.
Plus if u have a search bars, screensavers, and crap, this also slows your machine down bad...
A good machine is a clean machine, keep it simple..
If u type msconfig in the start/run go to startup in there un will be able to turn a heap of stuff off.
in Control panel instal uninstall, remove all the stuff u dont NEED both in programs and windows stuff (need and want are 2 diff things
Do a google for hyjackthis, down load and run...it is like msconfig, but far more detailed...kill anything u dont need.
If u wish to dig deeper open a file C:\WINDOWS\inf\sysoc.inf and remove all hide but leave the ' ' behind...then go back to control panel/unistall/windows stuff and remove everything that now appears u dont need.
Then right clk my computer (NT/XP/vista) /manage, down the bottom u will find services...theres a heap of these u can turn off also.
Basically a XP machine needs 512 meg ram, Preferably 1gig...and minuim CPU of p3 700 Technology from late '90s or better
Vista P4 1.8 min 1gig ram. preferably 1.5 to 2 gig
98se p3 400 128 meg ram
The main issue on local machine spped is the modern virus scanners, they are way too heavy use far too much ram and scan stuff they dont need to.
Plus if u have a search bars, screensavers, and crap, this also slows your machine down bad...
A good machine is a clean machine, keep it simple..
If u type msconfig in the start/run go to startup in there un will be able to turn a heap of stuff off.
in Control panel instal uninstall, remove all the stuff u dont NEED both in programs and windows stuff (need and want are 2 diff things
Do a google for hyjackthis, down load and run...it is like msconfig, but far more detailed...kill anything u dont need.
If u wish to dig deeper open a file C:\WINDOWS\inf\sysoc.inf and remove all hide but leave the ' ' behind...then go back to control panel/unistall/windows stuff and remove everything that now appears u dont need.
Then right clk my computer (NT/XP/vista) /manage, down the bottom u will find services...theres a heap of these u can turn off also.
Basically a XP machine needs 512 meg ram, Preferably 1gig...and minuim CPU of p3 700 Technology from late '90s or better
Vista P4 1.8 min 1gig ram. preferably 1.5 to 2 gig
98se p3 400 128 meg ram
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Thanks for the detailed reply keith.
As a novice I am very worried about going into programmes I know nothing about. I can see that if I "cleaned up" all the things you suggest then perhaps I would get a much better load up time.
I do have Norton antivirus etc installed but I wouldn't really know how to select what to turn off in the "heaps of stuff" you suggest that I could erase and what to leave on just in case I let the dreaded viruses through.
It took 70 seconds to load Jowetttalk this evening as I counted the clock ticking whilst waiting, but I think I'll just have to bear it. When it has been loaded and I don't turn the computer off then jumping about the forums seems ok. It's just on the first time.
By the way, eBay loads in about 3 seconds, and the Sunbeam Rapier site in around 4.
Regards,
Tony.
Tony.
As a novice I am very worried about going into programmes I know nothing about. I can see that if I "cleaned up" all the things you suggest then perhaps I would get a much better load up time.
I do have Norton antivirus etc installed but I wouldn't really know how to select what to turn off in the "heaps of stuff" you suggest that I could erase and what to leave on just in case I let the dreaded viruses through.
It took 70 seconds to load Jowetttalk this evening as I counted the clock ticking whilst waiting, but I think I'll just have to bear it. When it has been loaded and I don't turn the computer off then jumping about the forums seems ok. It's just on the first time.
By the way, eBay loads in about 3 seconds, and the Sunbeam Rapier site in around 4.
Regards,
Tony.
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Unlikely to be your machine as download speeds are several orders of magnitude slower than a modern computer. Most likely is the effect of sharing your connection to the Internet with many others; either on the telephone link (if you are not cable) or in the Internet Service Provider's servers.
Try doing some of the 'test your broadband speed' tests at various times of the day. Friday evening is usually the slowest. If you are on Virgin then make sure you have the latest modem. Anything more than a couple of years old does not work properly with the new servers. It runs at a 100th of the rated speed!
Sometimes the JowettTalk or Gallery database servers are overloaded; but then will return an error to you.
Try doing some of the 'test your broadband speed' tests at various times of the day. Friday evening is usually the slowest. If you are on Virgin then make sure you have the latest modem. Anything more than a couple of years old does not work properly with the new servers. It runs at a 100th of the rated speed!
Sometimes the JowettTalk or Gallery database servers are overloaded; but then will return an error to you.
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I run about 6000kb down 600 up consistant
I run about 6000kb down 600 up consistant
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Keith C.
Thanks for your reply. Believe it or not, tonight (Sat 20.45 hrs) Jowetttalk came up from "Favourites" in about 2 seconds flat!
As you say there was probably a lot of weight on the system the other night.
My modem is quite old, so I will get in touch with BT and chat about more modern links.
Regards,
Tony.
Thanks for your reply. Believe it or not, tonight (Sat 20.45 hrs) Jowetttalk came up from "Favourites" in about 2 seconds flat!
As you say there was probably a lot of weight on the system the other night.
My modem is quite old, so I will get in touch with BT and chat about more modern links.
Regards,
Tony.
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modem??? are u talking old 56k tecnnology or do u mean a broadband router often marketed as a 'modem'
The 'net has progress far beyond 56k...thats like using a vintage jowett to do long distance heavy haulage now.
If it is an old modem, dont upgrade...unless its a usb...the old modems are far better than the later modems.
The 'net has progress far beyond 56k...thats like using a vintage jowett to do long distance heavy haulage now.
If it is an old modem, dont upgrade...unless its a usb...the old modems are far better than the later modems.
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Modulator /demodulator technology is still used in any connection to Internet whether 16000 Baud as persists in the Aussie outback to T1 speed as used by companies to connect to a main pipe via fibre. All data is carried on a carrier frequency which may be frequency, phase or amplitude modulated (or a combination). The modem may well have router and firewall built in as well. Suggest you look at Wikipedia for more!
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Old modems are not far better, they are not matched to the exchange equipment any more. Something designed for 1Mb speed and just managed 2Mb cannot cope with the 20Mb now available, at least on cable.
Also note that on ADSL lines many protocols on old modems/routers may not be compatible. Look at specific forums for ISP services. However, if on BT with a BT supplied connection equipment you should be OK if less than 2 years old. Like any equipment it needs to have its firmware and sometimes hardware updated. This particularly applies to equipment with Firewalls built in.
Also note that on ADSL lines many protocols on old modems/routers may not be compatible. Look at specific forums for ISP services. However, if on BT with a BT supplied connection equipment you should be OK if less than 2 years old. Like any equipment it needs to have its firmware and sometimes hardware updated. This particularly applies to equipment with Firewalls built in.
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Thu a router may have a modem..it still routes, a modem cant route.Modulator /demodulator technology is still used in any connection to Internet whether 16000 Baud as persists in the Aussie outback to T1 speed as used by companies to connect to a main pipe via fibre. All data is carried on a carrier frequency which may be frequency, phase or amplitude modulated (or a combination). The modem may well have router and firewall built in as well. Suggest you look at Wikipedia for more!
I disagree they are as bad as the newOld modems are not far better,
But if one is still on 56kThe 'net has progress far beyond 56k...thats (modems)like using a vintage jowett to do long distance heavy haulage now.
the old modems are far better than the later modems.
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Hello Chaps,
If I may I think the below sums it up as far as most of us need.
Put Simply If you have a dial up modem the advice from Keith A would be not to replace it with (another 56K) new one as apparently the modern ones are inferior to products produced several years ago, however Keith C disagrees .
If you have Broadband don't call it a modem cos officially most (or all depending who you speak/listen to) of them aren't called modems. It is however still the box that hangs on to the end of your phone line and has pretty lights that wibble on and off as they see fit and talks in computerspeak to your PC.
If you ring up BT to sort you out there will inevitably be a bill which may or may not be to your liking. The sums are what counts at the end of the day. Do you want more speed, if you do then Broadband is for you, typical prices start around £12.99 per month with a free M.... !$?@! I nearly called it a modem. If you spend a small amount per quarter on your internet connection and you don't want to look at lots of pictures like the gallery or watch videos like Alan Bartlets video of his car finally moving under its own steam, you may well get by for the time being on a dial up. However dial ups are becoming more and more rare as web sites become cleverer and people want to watch video's etc.
Only you can decide but I hope a slight difference of opinion by two very technically competent fellow Jowetteers has caused "nobbut" a wrinkle of the forhead North of Watford.
If I may I think the below sums it up as far as most of us need.
Put Simply If you have a dial up modem the advice from Keith A would be not to replace it with (another 56K) new one as apparently the modern ones are inferior to products produced several years ago, however Keith C disagrees .
If you have Broadband don't call it a modem cos officially most (or all depending who you speak/listen to) of them aren't called modems. It is however still the box that hangs on to the end of your phone line and has pretty lights that wibble on and off as they see fit and talks in computerspeak to your PC.
If you ring up BT to sort you out there will inevitably be a bill which may or may not be to your liking. The sums are what counts at the end of the day. Do you want more speed, if you do then Broadband is for you, typical prices start around £12.99 per month with a free M.... !$?@! I nearly called it a modem. If you spend a small amount per quarter on your internet connection and you don't want to look at lots of pictures like the gallery or watch videos like Alan Bartlets video of his car finally moving under its own steam, you may well get by for the time being on a dial up. However dial ups are becoming more and more rare as web sites become cleverer and people want to watch video's etc.
Only you can decide but I hope a slight difference of opinion by two very technically competent fellow Jowetteers has caused "nobbut" a wrinkle of the forhead North of Watford.
Compliments of the Season,
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Thanx for all that, Alastair,......mine is broadband and I'm not sure if I've got a madam....at least I've never met her if I have!
As we say oop in't noorth....' there's nobbut wrong, what wi' meither and clutterbucks '
That makes as much sense as all this computerspeak to me....got to admire you guys tho'
Ted
As we say oop in't noorth....' there's nobbut wrong, what wi' meither and clutterbucks '
That makes as much sense as all this computerspeak to me....got to admire you guys tho'
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Since most Jowett owners want to find out how things work, here goes....
As the song goes: Your computer is connected to the USB/Ethernet cable; your cable is connected to the Internet protocol router which is the postman and decides where to send the packet on the IP network, your Internet protocol router is connected to your modem transmission equipment, your modem is connect to the line, the line is connected to the Exchange, the Exchange connects to the Internet Interface server which does all the things that Internet Service Providers do (including Domain name look up service that allows your computer to find out where jowett.org is on the Internet), the Internet Interface server connects to routers on the World Wide Web or Internet (if it allows your packet to continue its journey), the routers connect to more routers through modems and transmission links till the packet you sent reaches the address you asked for (jowett.org).
For more http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modem
If you want to follow the journey of your packet through this maze type 'tracert jowett.org' either in a DOS cmd window or from 'Start', 'Run' box
You will also see how long it takes to jump each link. Very useful for seeing where tings are slow. you can do no harm to your PC doing this.
As the song goes: Your computer is connected to the USB/Ethernet cable; your cable is connected to the Internet protocol router which is the postman and decides where to send the packet on the IP network, your Internet protocol router is connected to your modem transmission equipment, your modem is connect to the line, the line is connected to the Exchange, the Exchange connects to the Internet Interface server which does all the things that Internet Service Providers do (including Domain name look up service that allows your computer to find out where jowett.org is on the Internet), the Internet Interface server connects to routers on the World Wide Web or Internet (if it allows your packet to continue its journey), the routers connect to more routers through modems and transmission links till the packet you sent reaches the address you asked for (jowett.org).
For more http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modem
If you want to follow the journey of your packet through this maze type 'tracert jowett.org' either in a DOS cmd window or from 'Start', 'Run' box
You will also see how long it takes to jump each link. Very useful for seeing where tings are slow. you can do no harm to your PC doing this.
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