Whose car is this?

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Jack
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Whose car is this?

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Just seen on Youtube, looks like an interesting project - no doubt the Matt Black will divide fans, but it is growing on me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGTrHvUM0i4

Project started in July 2011 and finished by the end of the year. Good going! Sounds like a younger member with a skill for bodywork has been working hard too.

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Re: Whose car is this?

Post by p.p. »

like the " Gangster Car " a young people expresion for a Javelin... :) :wink:
and " swing by and take me for a ride " :) 8) (would be a good title of the next Joweeter)

must be a fan of Jowett - the jupiter look's geat....plate nr. OKC 491 hope there will be at wales also..... the color of the Javelin is realy for the young lads...and girl's... give's same "pep" in the rally.... 8)
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Post by robert lintott »

DNH 793 is shown in the 2008 register as known but not registered---part 2. It is E3PE 23636, quite near the end of production. Looks to be a good example . Is that a JCC badge on the N/S grill ?

The Jupiter I could not find in the Register.

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Post by robert lintott »

Apologies , the Jupiter OKC 491 is also in part 2, chassis no. 915 Bob
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I think I know the Jupiter - the locks on the wings and a couple of other things reminded me (but I could be wrong) of someone I met at the rally in Wakefield with a car that had similar spec and I think was the same.

The problem is that I can't remember a name, but from memory the car had been used in South Africa at some point, and the locks and other features were needed for security. So can anyone remember who this might be? He was incredibly helpful when Robin Fairservice and I wanted to look at various features on the Jupiter during the SC rebuild, asking him to raise the bonnet several times to check details.

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This is the ex. Dave McLauchlan car from the N/East section. Dave sold the car to Alf McMullen from Liverpool who is
a club member. The car has the benefit of a Mike Smailes engine and always went very well.
I hope the new owner takes car to Wales, it would be nice to see it again.

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Post by robert lintott »

Dear Alf
I am just about getting on to fitting the reverse light switch you sent me.

Re the black Javelin and the Jup. on utube , it isnt clear who owns these two cars, could it not still be the member in Liverpool you mentioned ? Unfortunately the membership list produced by the Club gives no information on what if anything we all own, despite being a car club!

With best wishes Bob (Lintott)
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The Registers are produced seperately and regularly, and you should have received one when you joined. Please contact the membership sec.

However, perhaps next year the exec will allow them to be viewed on line by club members. Please speak to your section sec!
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Post by Alf Heseltine »

Just to confirm the info. these cars do belong to Alfred McMullen of Merseyside who is a club member with the N/West section.
I feel no infringement of privacy on this matter will be considered as the details will be given when vehicle ownership lists are
updated.

Maybe this finish given to Alf. McMullen's Javelin could stir interest from the youngsters the club really needs.

Regards, Alf.
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Alf Heseltine wrote:Just to confirm the info. these cars do belong to Alfred McMullen of Merseyside who is a club member with the N/West section.
I feel no infringement of privacy on this matter will be considered as the details will be given when vehicle ownership lists are
updated.

Maybe this finish given to Alf. McMullen's Javelin could stir interest from the youngsters the club really needs.

Regards, Alf.
Hi Alf,

Thanks for the info. It appears that the finish has stirred some interest already - his son painted the car, which is one of the reasons I am very interested in it. Younger people involved with the club who are getting their hands dirty is great news for us (and for Alf!) and it is certainly something different and changes the look of the car considerably.

Jack.
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Post by robert lintott »

to Forumadmin. Thanks for your reply to my comments on registers and lists, and for all the work you do to make the Forum a success. I was sent a 2008 Register when I (rejoined* ) the JCC in that year but have not seen anything later. The 2008 register is significantly out of date but I appreciate it is a mammoth task to produce a new one . * I joined the Southern Jowett club in ca 1957 and later ,in 1983 ish,the JCC.

The question of Privacy was mentioned .I was surprised to note that the annual membership list makes no reference to privacy and the Register only refers to not using the info for commercial use . I and I think others are somewhat hesitant about putting Register and membership info on the forum when tracking down cars which come up for sale on ebay etc, but perhaps the forum privacy restrictions take care of it ?--or can non members see it ?

Re your comment about seeing the lists on line , why would the Executive have reservations?

With best wishes ,Bob
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Perhaps if the 'on line' information was restricted to details of the VEHICLE, e.g. year, number(s)?, colour, model etc., then anyone with a NEED to know the OWNER might be able to get that information direct from the Registrar. Might this then avoid any 'legal' complications?
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JowettTalk is a public place so it is best not to divulge information you are not certain would be approved by those concerned. I normally contact the member and get them to make the contact with the person asking for the info. Under no circumstances should you provide details from the membership list to others. I usually blind copy any reply I make to the requestor to those I think may like to contribute.

JowettGallery is not public and thus can be used to converse as you would with any other club member and share pictures of your cars and meetings.

Even if information is in the public domain it may not be appropriate to relay it.

All that said, do not it stop us having lively, friendly banter. If anyone objects please contact the webmaster who can redact any offending material. I tend to do this anyway if I think it appropriate.
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ian Howell wrote:Perhaps if the 'on line' information was restricted to details of the VEHICLE, e.g. year, number(s)?, colour, model etc., then anyone with a NEED to know the OWNER might be able to get that information direct from the Registrar. Might this then avoid any 'legal' complications?
If you want that info, and have the registration number, the DVLA will tell you if you ring them up. My experience is that they are really quite fast and loose with the amount of information they'll reveal if you are persistent :twisted: or if you ring their premium rate phone no - everything has a price it seems.

There isn't much legally beyond the Data Protection Act to restrict the club from putting information online and available only to members in the same way that the membership lists are posted out to all members. The challenge will, no doubt, be keeping the information current, and protecting the information from the rest of the internet, and the technology required to make the information searchable and useful to members.

Outside of the legal considerations, I guess that it is a matter of the club leadership deciding whether it wants to do this or not. Where there is a will, there is a way, as they say. Is it a priority? I think there are many more pressing and beneficial things that could be done for members before we spent a lot of time on this one.

Jack.
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Re: Whose car is this?

Post by Robin Fairservice »

This from a scan of a picture on page 91 of"The Healey Story" whichshowed Stirling Moss in an Austin Healey 100 in Weymouth towing a boat. The Javelin was in the background.
I think that the number plate is DJR 6**. I wonder if it is still around?
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