Bradford CC Lorry (The Tramp)

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george garside
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Re: Bradford CC Lorry (The Tramp)

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apart from some very early CA's Bradfords had the sidelight bulb in the headlight , as did many other makes as the lights were a standard lucas product. The reflector looks home made as it would originally have been a smooth chromed one

george
ian Howell
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Re: Bradford CC Lorry (The Tramp)

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Alan: -

That 'COSMIC' accelerator pedal may not be original!

(I'm having as much fun as you watching these posts!).
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Re: Bradford CC Lorry (The Tramp)

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ian Howell wrote:Alan: -

That 'COSMIC' accelerator pedal may not be original!

(I'm having as much fun as you watching these posts!).
Makes it go faster though.

Alan
I think that I have some trafficators in storage which will have either come off a CC Bradford or Javelin so should be 12V, (should you not have an offer nearer to home)

are you missing the interior covers as well, don't think that I have any of those though, need to investigate my stock boxes.

Incidentally if you do a complete woodwork rebuild it takes around 3 Cubic Yards of wood and there are practically no straight pieces

Steve
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ian Howell
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From about 1980 to '87 ex WD Jowett stationary engine. (Sold on)
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Re: Bradford CC Lorry (The Tramp)

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I think there are patterns forBradford woodwork available through Jowett Spares or possibly via Roger Young's estate.
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Re: Bradford CC Lorry (The Tramp)

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Hmm maybe the Cosmic pedal is part of the time travelling feature? Though I haven't found the flux capacitor and the only thing that resembles a Deloreon is the "gull wing" bonnet :)

Well today I have been continuing with free off the brake adjusters. The tool turned up on friday just in time for the weekend, also got re acquainted with these to help me along the way!
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Everything is crusty, but looks serviceable. Although a bit more of a poke around toward the back revealed some grot on the chassis, so once Ive sorted out the cab, I think I will be getting the chassis apart from the bed and cab and for my own piece of mind getting it sorted and repaired.
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Makes a good screwdriver holder though! It looks to have been repaired before too.

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If trafficators are the same as Javelin I will send a working set on return from NZ.

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Re: Bradford CC Lorry (The Tramp)

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ian Howell
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From about 1980 to '87 ex WD Jowett stationary engine. (Sold on)
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Re: Bradford CC Lorry (The Tramp)

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Alan:-

Nice article in the APRIL 'The Automobile' but I expect you already knew!

I wonder how many 'real' Bradford lorries there are?
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Re: Bradford CC Lorry (The Tramp)

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Alan, a vital part of setting up the girling brakes is that the expander unit MUST be free to slide on the backplate. This not happening is the biggest cause of uneven braking, pulling to one side or just poor efficiency due to only one shoe being pushed against the drim. Lightly grease backplate/expander unit, tighten retaining nuts ( use new self locking nuts)full and then back off until expander moves freely on backplate

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Re: Bradford CC Lorry (The Tramp)

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Well I spent yesterday evening stripping off the front wings to see and get to things a bit easier and so I could start cleaning things up. And made a few discoveries of holes, and riveted on patches on either side of the scuttle. Along with the a small patch of the wing mounting needing to be repaired and remade. So time to get re learning on the welding haven't done it in a while and wasn't brilliant when I tried, so hopefully this will give me the motivation to give it another go again!

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From 1967 to '87 Black de Luxe Javelin MKC 1 (later 6469TU). (Sold as non-runner with tons of spares, 1987)
From about 1980 to '87 ex WD Jowett stationary engine. (Sold on)
From 1966 to present, 1930 Long Four Fabric Saloon, Dark Blue / Black.
Taken in a part-repaired state to the 2010 Centenary Rally, returned to a roadworthy state by 2013.
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Re: Bradford CC Lorry (The Tramp)

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All those patches surely mean that at some time The Tramp was loved by its owner!

You don't go to that much trouble if you don't care.
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Re: Bradford CC Lorry (The Tramp)

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Alan - when it comes to putting the engine back in the front ( engine mounting) crossmember gets in the way as does the steering column. unbolt steering box and drag link an pull column up into the cab. The simplest way to deal with the crossmember is to remove all but the lower front bolts i.e remove 3 per side. The lower front ones should be loosened but left in place so that the crossmember can pivot forwards and downwards on them. Doing it this way rather than removing vrossmember completely saves the thing going out of alignment.

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Re: Bradford CC Lorry (The Tramp)

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Well a bit more progress made at the weekend. Wirebrushing the crusty rust off the front chassis rails. And getting it in a coat of primer. Working my way backwards. Am I right in thinking although it looks to be all the chassis cross members are just bolted to the chassis rails? Not what i expected, expected them to be pressed in. Also took off the front hubs to check the bearings which are surprisingly look all new, clean and well greased. Quite a surprised from how long the car has been stood.

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Re: Bradford CC Lorry (The Tramp)

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yes all cross members are bolted to chassis rails but I would not remove more than one at a time !

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Re: Bradford CC Lorry (The Tramp)

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I think I need to get hold of my Jowett agent!

So spent the day taking a bit more apart to get cleaned up took the bed off to check out the holey chassis, and its quite holy! Also the rear of the chassis is ever so slightly bowed! Having measured up everything appears to be square, it just looks to bow out from the middle of the back of the chassis. Very odd! Our only thoughts as its been bolted up from the factory like that, as the nuts and bolts at the rear holding the cross members appear to be original and undisturbed.

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Putting the rail against a straight edge you can see how its moved out slightly
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