Carbs

Comfortable talk! email JCC UK Registrar. Technical Question? Try Service Bulletins or TechNotes or Tech Library or Parts book first. Note that you need to be a club member to view the Tech Library..

Paul Wilks' Javelin was shortlisted for Classic Car of the Year 2013.
Post Reply
paul wilks
Posts: 396
Joined: Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:13 pm
Your interest in the forum: 1953 deluxe Javelin (NVM285) owned by father 1959-67
1949 standard Javelin (FBD327) owned in 1980s as daily transport
1952 deluxe Javelin (HJU592) owned since 1967 aka 'Yellow Peril'
Location: Runcorn, Cheshire

Carbs

Post by paul wilks »

I have just contacted the Carburettor Exchange, 28f High Street, Leighton Buzzard, Beds re reconditioned carbs (as reported by Dave Morris some time ago). The good news is they have confirmed that they can still recondition them. The bad news is it will take 7 weeks because they are very busy. I realise that this is probably very reasonable but I am hoping to get my car to the ‘Jowett’ garage in Congleton (as mentioned by Tim in a recent Jowetteer) very soon but the car doesn't start well (I need too much of the Easy Start treatment and covers over the air intakes to get her to start) or run that well and I believe the carbs are to blame

So my question is: does anyone know of another source of carbs who might be able to give a faster turn round of a pair of carbs? I know this is just a long shot and I might just have to struggle with the starting etc as long as I can get her through an MOT.

Any advice would be welcome!

Thanks

Paul
Paul Wilks
Alastair Gregg
websitedesign
Posts: 757
Joined: Sun Aug 27, 2006 10:43 pm
Your interest in the forum: E2 SA 922 HKY 770
D7 CB 6079 CVG 166
E2 PD 22113 MVU 377
Given Name: Alastair
Location: Corrie, Isle of Arran.

Re: Carbs

Post by Alastair Gregg »

Paul, talk to David Mason, there is a club member in Sowerby Bridge who has done some for David and it didn't take 7 weeks.

I am on the car collection team (Moving your car from Runcorn to Congleton), so I'd much rather it was not in too many pieces when we take it to Congleton :D
Compliments of the Season,

Alastair Gregg
TedAllen
Posts: 324
Joined: Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:34 pm
Your interest in the forum: Jowett now owned over 40 yrs
Given Name: ted
Location: Manchester. The Rainy City

Re: Carbs

Post by TedAllen »

Hi Paul,

I had this problem for some years....used Easy Start but I found it better to toss a little petrol down each pipe. To this end, i carried a pint in one of those alloy camping bottles.......made for the purpose. It also saved me a possible fine when I ran out on the bike on a French Autoroute looking for fuel....73 miles without a sniff ! )

Since fitting a new electronic pump, cost about £40, she starts on the first touch of the button, after priming.
That might be a good option as well. I made a steel plate to go where the old pump was.
I'm going to have a couple of carbs done over the winter. It'll have to do for now.

Regards.
paul wilks
Posts: 396
Joined: Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:13 pm
Your interest in the forum: 1953 deluxe Javelin (NVM285) owned by father 1959-67
1949 standard Javelin (FBD327) owned in 1980s as daily transport
1952 deluxe Javelin (HJU592) owned since 1967 aka 'Yellow Peril'
Location: Runcorn, Cheshire

Re: Carbs

Post by paul wilks »

Thanks Ted and Alastair. I'll get in touch with David. You needn't worry, Alastair, the Javelin is a whole car! And thanks very much for being part of the trailer team. It is really appreciated.

Paul
Paul Wilks
Keith Andrews
Posts: 941
Joined: Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:11 am
Location: New Zealand
Contact:

Re: Carbs

Post by Keith Andrews »

bad news is it will take 7 weeks because they are very busy.
That is rediculous....I have simple carbs like the draddy, and more complex like some of the jappa carbs turned around in 24 hrs...that includes dipping, rebuilding and re cadium plating.
My Spelling is Not Incorrect...It's 'Creative'
Robin Fairservice
Posts: 322
Joined: Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:11 pm
Your interest in the forum: Learning about Jowett cars
Given Name: ROBIN
Location: Prince George, BC, Canada

Re: Carbs

Post by Robin Fairservice »

On my Javelin the right hand carb has started squirting petrol out of the small holes above the float chamber. I have had the float chamber off and ensured that all holes are not blaocked, and similarly the emulsion piece. I have an old carb and compared them, but cannot see any reason for the flooding. The car starts and runs OK, but petrol going eberywhere scares me.

Any ideas as to my problem?
Keith Andrews
Posts: 941
Joined: Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:11 am
Location: New Zealand
Contact:

Re: Carbs

Post by Keith Andrews »

Float level?
Crap in the float fuel shut off valve?
My Spelling is Not Incorrect...It's 'Creative'
Forumadmin
Site Admin
Posts: 20648
Joined: Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:18 pm
Your interest in the forum: Not a lot!
Given Name: Forum

Re: Carbs

Post by Forumadmin »

Mechanical or electrical pump?
Take bowl off and press valve up lightly with finger. If electric switch on ignition and see if petrol leaks out, if mechanical, pump manually.
Check no petrol in float by shaking.
When taking bowl off see that petrol is not to top but about a third down.
Robin Fairservice
Posts: 322
Joined: Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:11 pm
Your interest in the forum: Learning about Jowett cars
Given Name: ROBIN
Location: Prince George, BC, Canada

Re: Carbs

Post by Robin Fairservice »

Many thanks for your suggestions. I have removed the bowl and there was not a lot of petrol in it, but I removed the inlet valve and checked it. The pin seemed to be a little sticky, but the valve did not seem to be blocked. I had an old carb so I swapped the inlet valves. The old one looked different, but when I started the car, I didn't have petrol spirting out, so I think, and hope, that the problem has been cured.
Robin Fairservice
Posts: 322
Joined: Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:11 pm
Your interest in the forum: Learning about Jowett cars
Given Name: ROBIN
Location: Prince George, BC, Canada

Re: Carbs

Post by Robin Fairservice »

Now a different question. Taking a closer look at my carburettors, I noticed that the driver's left carb has what appears to be a grease nipple screwed into the place where the manifold vacuum line goes on the right hand carb. Shouldn't this be an air tight plug?
Forumadmin
Site Admin
Posts: 20648
Joined: Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:18 pm
Your interest in the forum: Not a lot!
Given Name: Forum

Re: Carbs

Post by Forumadmin »

It is a nipple for the vacuum advance or vacuum gauge. I doubt it has a grease nipple valve ball in it. So if you are not using it block it up!
Some people fitted them on both carbs (usually they are only on one) to use with a manometer or vacuum gauge to balance the carbs.
Robin Fairservice
Posts: 322
Joined: Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:11 pm
Your interest in the forum: Learning about Jowett cars
Given Name: ROBIN
Location: Prince George, BC, Canada

Re: Carbs

Post by Robin Fairservice »

Thanks. I have replaced it with a brass plug. It does seem to have a ball in it so could have been letting some air in.
Keith Andrews
Posts: 941
Joined: Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:11 am
Location: New Zealand
Contact:

Re: Carbs

Post by Keith Andrews »

Another thing with usig old carbs...the butterfly bushes being worn...
Have the engine idle, use a little lpg or either and spray around the bushes wiggling them a little...and change in rpms means a inconsistant vac leak.....if there is a rpm change simply by wiggling the shaft....the carb is stuffed or needs rebuild and any tuning of carb, jets, timing etc is a total waste of time till fixed.

So much so a bradford with an extemely worn engine, so bad if a car follows it down a long hill, at the bottom their is no much oil smoke the car behind cant see and has to slow down....and has about 30lb compression.
Put a fully rebuilt carn on it, jet for modern octane..
The race across flats, up hills with a bradford with a brand new engine and worn carb, the worn engine keeps up very nicely with the new engine....over 50 miles....and the worn engine has a far slower and stable idle.
My Spelling is Not Incorrect...It's 'Creative'
robert lintott
Posts: 353
Joined: Sun Mar 02, 2008 12:29 am
Your interest in the forum: Javelin E2PD 22752 D PHU317
Austin 16/6 tourer 1930
Ferrari 308 gt4 1978
Alfa Romeo Spider 2000 1978
Jaguar XJ6 diesel 2006
Location: somerset uk

Re: Carbs

Post by robert lintott »

Suggest you try "the carburettor hospital" tel 01702203286 or carburettorhospital.co.uk. I had good service from them for fuel pump parts, good :lol: website Bob lintott
Post Reply

Return to “Javelin”