Orginality Queries

[AlanBartlett]

Good evening all,

I hope everyone had a good christmas.

Ive got a couple questions regarding the bulkhead, Is there any thing that is meant to be attached to it, because there seems to be lots of holes for what seems to be different things. Also which way does the wiring properly route along the front of the bulk head.

Thirdly what is good type of paint to or covering ie lacure or wood preserver, to put onto the floor boards?

Many thanks to anyone in the know.

Cheers Alan,

Ps Thank you for the parcel Tony.

[ian Howell]

Alan: -

I had the following reply from Ian Priestley in August 2009, following my request for exactly these details for my 1930 Long Four (Wooden bulkhead and floorboards though!): -

'Wires come through centre of floorboard immediately below petrol tank then follow bottom edge of tank to N/S then down to chassis level. Wires to front junction box are attached to chassis with clips, wires to rear are attached to underside of floor outside the chassis'.

The remains of the harness that came with the car included a canvas 'sleeve' to enclose the wires behind the dashboard. There is a 'notch' in the footboard exactly as IP states under the petrol tank. The ONLY wire to the rear was for the rear light, and this was fixed to the floorboards with old-style insulated staples.

I have so far been unable to get definitive information on the clips to the chassis although Tony Fearn has said that these are still available from vintage suppliers.

There was no 'stop' light fitted in 1930 and I suspect the car was not used on the road after the lighting Regs. changed (1937?).

I hope this helps, or at least prompts a more informed reply.

[AlanBartlett]

Does anyone have any pictured of a 1934 bumper, how it is fixed to the chassis? As it seems my is attached via some box section fixed to the two strips of metal coming from the chassis, is this original?

Also does anyone know where I can get a hold of the rubber bushes for the luvax shocks.

[kemp1942]

Which bumper Alan, front or rear ?

[kemp1942]

Alan, for my Luvax repairs I used Graham Brown, Vintage & Classic Shock Absorbers, 203 Sanderstead Road, South Croydon. Surrey CR2 0PN : Tel 0208 651 5347.
He/they restore Hartford & Armstrong as well as Luvax and Girling link type shock absorbers/dampers. Don't have a web site.
I didn't order any parts, just sent the complete unit to him - only issue I had was length of time to get it back - had to chase several times
Might be worth a phone call to see if he can supply bushes ?
Ian

[AlanBartlett]

Thanks Ian, will try them, I forgot to mention, its the rear I am working on must be this cider stuff I seem to be consuming.

[kemp1942]

Can't help with the rear Alan, Arabella was not fitted with one - shame because it leaves her rear vulnerable !

[AlanBartlett]

Do you not have anything fitted to the rear then?

[kemp1942]

Nothing at all - except the spare wheel - see pic

[Tony Fearn]

Alan,

Photograph the bits you have and send them to me in an email. I'll see if they mirror 'Mary Ellen's' back end and if they do, I'll photograph hers and email them to you.

I've a feeling that when I reconstituted the rear, in the late 70's, I'd already taken a few photos of the ironwork of other 1934 cars, and I might just still have them.

Tony.

P.S. If you get any joy about the shocker bushes and they fit ok, then we'd all like to know about them.

[kemp1942]

Hi Alan.

Did you get sorted out on your rear bumper ?

Found a '34 lub chart which shows the fixing iron - see the upload.

Cheers, Ian

[AlanBartlett]

I did fit the bumper today actually, the thing which was throwing me off was the 2 pieces of square box section which was mounted to the bumper. But looking at it I found and remember that this was for the tow hitch I took off years ago. And actually have nothing to do with the actual bumper fitting. Which by the way I still have the the tow bar and mounting for it. Suprised I can still just remember the car towing a small trailer back in the day.

[AlanBartlett]

Evening All, I have another query

Horns, what is the original type horn which would have been supplied on the car from new, as Ive discovered several different types.

Type 1 the one mounted too the bulk head, does this type have a funnel attachment?

or

Type 2 the one in the picture mounted to the engine if you can me out the photo.

Also how do you adjust either horn, as they both sound terrible, especially the one to the bulkhead sounds like a pig with cold squealing.

[kemp1942]

Hi Alan
Lucas Altette - mines mounted from the front timing cover top bolt
Ian

[Tony Fearn]

Hello Alan.

1. The scan of the rear end that Ian has posted above is exactly like M.E.'s rear ironwork.

2.The under-bonnet arrangements on your car look much better than they did a couple of years ago (TTL).

3. M.E.'s horn was the same pattern as the one in Ian's photo, and was mounted in the same place. I've added a Klaxon instead but if you remember the bracket nut came loose on the way back from Bideford and I nearly had a catastrophic fire.

4. I think that there will be a slotted screw on the back of the horn. It alters the tone when you turn it right or left bit by bit - one click at a time. Count the clicks so that you can come back to base if necessary.

5. I noticed that Ian has a plastic tube to take petrol from the pump to the carb.. I've a feeling that a copper pipe similar to the original would be safer.

6. The circular pressing on Arabella's bulkhead with the two holes on it takes the bolts which hold a junction box to the inside of the bulkhead. The nuts are in the engine-compartment side.

7. I thought your photos in the Jowetteer, of how you stored the body whilst you worked on the chassis, were wonderful. This might give others an idea. But get rid of the mobile phone 1.5 megapixel camera, and get a proper one which gives sharp images!! - Tongue in cheek! - Don't take offence.

8. Will your car be back together again so that you can make it to Wakefield? I sincerely hope so.

Best wishes to you and your mum.

Tony.