I see from photos several Jupiters are fitted with racing type mirrors well forwardon the front guards. My Javelin has a external mirror mounted on the door leading edge and much closer to the driver. Modern cars also have their mirrors on the front edge of doors. In NZ some Japanese imports used to have the mirrors mounted on the guards.
I would be interested in comments from Jupiter owners with mirrors on the guards. Are they effective? Do you think mounting closer to or on the doors would be better?
Also those of you that have mirrors mounted closer, where are they fixed?
How do you find them?
Jupiter external mirrors
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Alan Stanley
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Alan, When I re-built the Jupiter I fitted period mirrors on the front wings. They are effective UP TO A POINT. To combat traffic conditions here in the UK I have added mirrors at driver and passenger door level. I feel safer using these.
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Hello again Alan.
Sorry I'm not a "Jupiter owner with mirrors on the guards", but:-
I have wing (guard) mirrors on my 1934 Jowett saloon, and also on my 1962 Sunbeam rapier IIIA.
I don't have a problem because all the mirrors are of the convex type and as they are mounted far away from the leading edge of the doors almost all contingencies are covered.
Flat mirrors should be outlawed as they are useless in my opinion.
Regards,
Tony.
Sorry I'm not a "Jupiter owner with mirrors on the guards", but:-
I have wing (guard) mirrors on my 1934 Jowett saloon, and also on my 1962 Sunbeam rapier IIIA.
I don't have a problem because all the mirrors are of the convex type and as they are mounted far away from the leading edge of the doors almost all contingencies are covered.
Flat mirrors should be outlawed as they are useless in my opinion.
Regards,
Tony.
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Alan.
You can see in the attached picture where I decided to mount the single exterior mirror on my Jupiter. Mounting a second one on the passenger side in the same position may be fraught with difficulties i.e. getting the "angle to view" right.
Of course the closer the mirror is mounted to the driver the greater the field of vision encompassed (assuming we are comparing the same size mirror), but the minor downside is that it's in a position where your eyes will need to move a greater angle from straight ahead to see into the mirror . . as compared to a wing mirror. I personally don't have a issue with having to do that. The upside of having it just outside the window is that it's "a piece of cake" to adjust.
Any bolt access required for mounting is through the "porthole" at the rear of the hinge column, in front of the door.
You can see in the attached picture where I decided to mount the single exterior mirror on my Jupiter. Mounting a second one on the passenger side in the same position may be fraught with difficulties i.e. getting the "angle to view" right.
Of course the closer the mirror is mounted to the driver the greater the field of vision encompassed (assuming we are comparing the same size mirror), but the minor downside is that it's in a position where your eyes will need to move a greater angle from straight ahead to see into the mirror . . as compared to a wing mirror. I personally don't have a issue with having to do that. The upside of having it just outside the window is that it's "a piece of cake" to adjust.
Any bolt access required for mounting is through the "porthole" at the rear of the hinge column, in front of the door.
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I have mirrors on each wheel guard, on the drivers door pillar and the interior one. Having raced and rallied in many countries my experience has been I rarely use the door mirror unless I have a large case on the boot rack and cannot see through the interior. Note however I have a large rear window so can normally see all I need to through it. I also have transparent panels in the side of the hood so can quickly look behind me at the side on both sides. Very useful when Drummond wrong slotted at night! The wing mirrors are really good for overtaking or cutting back in because you do not have to take your eyes off the road in front.
For racing, I fitted a panoramic mirror in a racing cowl on top of the dash as there was no windscreen fitted. I need to see all around me; but people regularly driving vans get used to just side mirrors.
For racing, I fitted a panoramic mirror in a racing cowl on top of the dash as there was no windscreen fitted. I need to see all around me; but people regularly driving vans get used to just side mirrors.