le Mans Classic 2023

Sporty talk! email JCC UK and JOAC Registrar. Technical Question? Try Service Bulletins or TechNotes or Tech Library first. Note that you need to be a club member to view the Tech Library.. Parts book
Thanks to those who voted for the Jowett Jupiter as Practical Classic's Car of the Year 2010. Read the saga of why the SC deserved to win on JowettTalk-Great SC rebuild or Amy's call to action.
Keith Clements
websitedesign
Posts: 3968
Joined: Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:22 am
Your interest in the forum: Jup NKD 258, the most widely travelled , raced and rallied Jowett.
Given Name: Keith
Contact:

Race 3 analysis.

Post by Keith Clements »

13_BestSectors_RACE 3.PDF
This shows the relative best sectors. Sector one we came 36th with 58.479, Sector 2 44th with 2:25.509, and sector 3 35th with 2:52.251. The sectors are one from start to Tetre Rouge, 2 from there to end of Mulsanne, 3 from there to finish.
lemans.jpg
12_LapChart_RACE 3.PDF
The lap chart shows the relative positions of each car on each lap. In Race 3 we started 32nd, dropped to 33rd, then 40th, back up to 38, then 31st, then 38th, finishing 39th. The rise in position was due to the late driver change. The start position was due to a good fastest lap in race 2.
26_Weather_RACE 3.PDF
Trying to estimate effect of humidity and temperature on performance is an art. The engine should be better in cool, humid conditions until you start to get icing on the carbs. The tyres should be better with hot track temperature but all then depends on tyre pressure which we played with during practice settling on, I think, 38 psi. hot as we checked pressure at each pit stop and at end of race or practice.

23_Analysis_RACE 3.PDF
This is informative showing the build up of speed during the race. Chris's best lap coming at the end of the stint, possibly because the late pit stop gave him space and was not held up by similar perfomance cars. The driver change on Lap 5 added about 1min 30 secs to the Sector 1 time.
19_AnalysisByLap_RACE 3.PDF
This is the most informative chart showing how the late driver change put us on third in Lap 5, but of course dropping down again when we made the change to 9th past the post on lap 6 as faster cars caught up, and way down on lap 7 after the change.

17_FastestLapSequence_RACE 3.PDF
This shows nothing!
14_BestTopSpeed_RACE 3.PDF
43 Jowett Jupiter 1951 TSRC3A H. NAERGER
Best top speed 188.1 on lap 2
second best 185.8 on lap 1
third 183.9 on 4
fourth 182.1 on 3
fifth 175.4 on 5
average for race 183,1
01_Grid_RACE 3.PDF
03_Classification_RACE 3.PDF
04_Classification_Index_Performance_RACE 3.PDF
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Last edited by Keith Clements on Fri Jul 07, 2023 12:02 pm, edited 1 time in total.
skype = keithaclements ;
Keith Clements
websitedesign
Posts: 3968
Joined: Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:22 am
Your interest in the forum: Jup NKD 258, the most widely travelled , raced and rallied Jowett.
Given Name: Keith
Contact:

Night Practice analysis

Post by Keith Clements »

03_Classification_FREE PRACTICE - NIGHT PRACTICE.PDF
26_Weather_FREE PRACTICE - NIGHT PRACTICE.PDF
It was wet and cold. Perhaps next time we will alter tyre pressures accordingly. We will probably not alter carb settings to better performance but to get that little extra it might help.
23_Analysis_FREE PRACTICE - NIGHT PRACTICE.PDF
The long gap here was due to fixing the top hose that had come off when Chris was driving. Scott followed on and managed to do a 570 deg spin at Indianapolis when blinded by headlights in the mirror. Mirror was blanked off for night race.
17_FastestLapSequence_FREE PRACTICE - NIGHT PRACTICE.PDF
14_BestTopSpeed_FREE PRACTICE - NIGHT PRACTICE.PDF
13_BestSectors_FREE PRACTICE - NIGHT PRACTICE.PDF
This shows your ideal lap compared to the best lap managed by the drivers.
43 43 Jowett Jupiter 1951 TSRC3A Ideal = 7:52.547 Best = 8:23.492 (54)
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
skype = keithaclements ;
Keith Clements
websitedesign
Posts: 3968
Joined: Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:22 am
Your interest in the forum: Jup NKD 258, the most widely travelled , raced and rallied Jowett.
Given Name: Keith
Contact:

Day Practice.

Post by Keith Clements »

03_Classification_QUALIFYING - DAY PRACTICE.PDF
26_Weather_QUALIFYING - DAY PRACTICE.PDF
23_Analysis_QUALIFYING - DAY PRACTICE.PDF
17_FastestLapSequence_QUALIFYING - DAY PRACTICE.PDF
14_BestTopSpeed_QUALIFYING - DAY PRACTICE.PDF
13_BestSectors_QUALIFYING - DAY PRACTICE.PDF
Sector 1 54th 1:02.111
sector 2 48th 2:32.651
sector 3 45th 3:01.497
Comparisons with other cars, particularly those in the same class may show up something useful. Drivers reported ease of passing on corners but lack of top speed on staights. Some aero dynamic changes are required as well as more power at the top end and higher max revs.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
skype = keithaclements ;
Keith Clements
websitedesign
Posts: 3968
Joined: Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:22 am
Your interest in the forum: Jup NKD 258, the most widely travelled , raced and rallied Jowett.
Given Name: Keith
Contact:

Race 1 analysis

Post by Keith Clements »

04_Classification_Index_Performance_RACE 1.PDF
03_Classification_RACE 1.PDF
26_Weather_RACE 1.PDF
23_Analysis_RACE 1.PDF
19_AnalysisByLap_RACE 1.PDF
17_FastestLapSequence_RACE 1.PDF
14_BestTopSpeed_RACE 1.PDF
13_BestSectors_RACE 1.PDF
12_LapChart_RACE 1.PDF
01_Grid_RACE 1.PDF
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Last edited by Keith Clements on Fri Jul 07, 2023 12:03 pm, edited 1 time in total.
skype = keithaclements ;
Keith Clements
websitedesign
Posts: 3968
Joined: Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:22 am
Your interest in the forum: Jup NKD 258, the most widely travelled , raced and rallied Jowett.
Given Name: Keith
Contact:

Race 2 results (no analysis!)

Post by Keith Clements »

04_Classification_Index_Performance_RACE 2.PDF
03_Classification_RACE 2.PDF
01_Grid_RACE 2.PDF
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
skype = keithaclements ;
Keith Clements
websitedesign
Posts: 3968
Joined: Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:22 am
Your interest in the forum: Jup NKD 258, the most widely travelled , raced and rallied Jowett.
Given Name: Keith
Contact:

The track in 1950

Post by Keith Clements »

Compare this to the current track whose image is in a previous post.
Layout3-Le-Mans1950.png
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
skype = keithaclements ;
Chris Spencer
Posts: 1937
Joined: Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:45 pm
Your interest in the forum: Jowett Restoration Specialist
Given Name: Chris
Location: Hampshire. UK

Re: le Mans Classic 2023

Post by Chris Spencer »

Trevor Spero wrote: 'Excellent result especially from a team of aged Jowetters'

Dear Mr Spero, Go wash your mouth out with strong carbolic soap immediately :lol: :lol: - I was very much part of this years Le Mans team and would care kindly not to be dumped into the 'Aged Jowetters' bracket just yet !
37 Jowett 8 HP - In many parts
52 Javelin Std 'Taxi Livery'
52 Javelin Std Patina project
52 Javelin Std Sports project
52 Jupiter SA - Original car - full restoration project
Chris Spencer
Posts: 1937
Joined: Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:45 pm
Your interest in the forum: Jowett Restoration Specialist
Given Name: Chris
Location: Hampshire. UK

Re: le Mans Classic 2023

Post by Chris Spencer »

LM1.jpg
Image credit: Charlie Killick

Playing with the big boys and winning at it - Chris Bates pilots the Jupiter past the 1952 J2X Allard (all 8 cylinders 5,394 cubic inch of it) to his next target the 1950 Talbot Lago T26 GS (Inline 6 cylinder 4,482 cubic inch) which Chris passes within the next mile :D
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
37 Jowett 8 HP - In many parts
52 Javelin Std 'Taxi Livery'
52 Javelin Std Patina project
52 Javelin Std Sports project
52 Jupiter SA - Original car - full restoration project
Post Reply

Return to “Jupiter”