Maybe a silly question but can anyone rplease ecommend the best grease to use on my recently aquired Javelin? An is a telescopic or lever grease gun best.
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Re: greasing
There is a lubrication chart in the Library produced by Castrol but this lists 1950's lubricants.
download/file.php?id=21618
Modern grease comes in all types of specifications.
I now use sealed for life bearings in the hubs thus saving the brake linings from getting coated. But if you still have bearing that need greasing I would use a high melting point grease such as https://classicoilsshop.co.uk/high-temp-grease This could also be used in the water pump.
For suspension and most other grease nipples and steering box, I use a moybdenum/graphite/lithium grease
https://www.halfords.com/motoring/engin ... 34949.html
For cables and brake rods https://www.screwfix.com/p/wd-40-white- ... 00ml/46103
You may need more than one grease gun. I find one with a flexible hose usually best, but getting the device to grip the nipple is often a problem and a solid hose is better. There are different types of nipple on the Jav so you may need diiferent attachments.
Have fun finding all the nipples! Some Javs have extra nipples on the king pins. Make sure you pump until the grease that comes out is clean and wipe off any excess. Make sure the breather hole on the rear axle is open and make sure grease is not being pumped onto the brake linings. Do not forget to take apart the rear brake cylinders and grease the handbrake mechanism, the adjusters and the shoe lever surfaces with brake grease. https://www.halfords.com/motoring/engin ... 22092.html Do the front brakes as well when you are check the hub oil seals.
download/file.php?id=21618
Modern grease comes in all types of specifications.
I now use sealed for life bearings in the hubs thus saving the brake linings from getting coated. But if you still have bearing that need greasing I would use a high melting point grease such as https://classicoilsshop.co.uk/high-temp-grease This could also be used in the water pump.
For suspension and most other grease nipples and steering box, I use a moybdenum/graphite/lithium grease
https://www.halfords.com/motoring/engin ... 34949.html
For cables and brake rods https://www.screwfix.com/p/wd-40-white- ... 00ml/46103
You may need more than one grease gun. I find one with a flexible hose usually best, but getting the device to grip the nipple is often a problem and a solid hose is better. There are different types of nipple on the Jav so you may need diiferent attachments.
Have fun finding all the nipples! Some Javs have extra nipples on the king pins. Make sure you pump until the grease that comes out is clean and wipe off any excess. Make sure the breather hole on the rear axle is open and make sure grease is not being pumped onto the brake linings. Do not forget to take apart the rear brake cylinders and grease the handbrake mechanism, the adjusters and the shoe lever surfaces with brake grease. https://www.halfords.com/motoring/engin ... 22092.html Do the front brakes as well when you are check the hub oil seals.
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Re: greasing
Bear in mind that if it is a late car with the rubber bushed suspension there will likely be a grease nipple underneath the bottom of the King Pin (where the stub axle assembly pivots on the lower suspension arm) and this does not do anything. It is a legacy from the previous design of suspension. The nipple is removed to attach the wheel alignment gear. This fastening point also applies for the later suspension and confusingly, the best thing to plug the hole against dirt is a grease nipple. Although the hole is blank, I have known some to be drilled through by owners in the mistaken belief that Jowetts must have made a mistake. In this case you are greasing the rubber parts which is not a good idea.
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Re: greasing
Grease gun wise you will be much better with hand held trigger type pump rather than long handled pump type as this requires 2 hands to operate - the trigger type can be operated single handed whilst your second hand can hold the connection from the gun on to the nipple if required
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Re: greasing
Hi Ant,
The Javelin is not easy to lubricate. Set aside a couple of hours of fun! All the previous advice is excellent and here are a few of my tips to add.
The swivel pins are difficult, and I have never found the lever hand-held guns have enough pressure. I used a big side arm gun, with a flexible hose. It's a bit of a struggle, but you need to hold the female nozzle onto the nipple with one hand and use the other hand work the side arm of the gun. The problem is then holding the rest of the gun, which you have to keep steady with your knees! Best to have the front wheels off and the car on axle stands.
If you have don't have the Jowett adjustable track rod ends, the aftermarket ones often have grease nipples on the top and you need the flexible hose on the gun to reach them, as you do to get to the nipples on the inside of the steering drop arms. Don't forget the nipple on the steering idler and the little one at the bottom of the steering shaft.
You will need a small side lever gun for putting heavy oil into the steering box and a plastic bottle with a flexible spout for the EP oil for the rear axle.
The gear box takes ordinary SAE 30 engine oil. Don't use any EP oil here! If you have the early front suspension, there will be reservoir tanks for lubricant mounted on the inner wheel arches. I used SAE 140 oil here, as they leak oil ( or should do if the pipes are not blocked! ) and this reduces the inevitable seepage.
Hope all this helps? Have fun, as after a greasing session, you will feel very happy!
David
The Javelin is not easy to lubricate. Set aside a couple of hours of fun! All the previous advice is excellent and here are a few of my tips to add.
The swivel pins are difficult, and I have never found the lever hand-held guns have enough pressure. I used a big side arm gun, with a flexible hose. It's a bit of a struggle, but you need to hold the female nozzle onto the nipple with one hand and use the other hand work the side arm of the gun. The problem is then holding the rest of the gun, which you have to keep steady with your knees! Best to have the front wheels off and the car on axle stands.
If you have don't have the Jowett adjustable track rod ends, the aftermarket ones often have grease nipples on the top and you need the flexible hose on the gun to reach them, as you do to get to the nipples on the inside of the steering drop arms. Don't forget the nipple on the steering idler and the little one at the bottom of the steering shaft.
You will need a small side lever gun for putting heavy oil into the steering box and a plastic bottle with a flexible spout for the EP oil for the rear axle.
The gear box takes ordinary SAE 30 engine oil. Don't use any EP oil here! If you have the early front suspension, there will be reservoir tanks for lubricant mounted on the inner wheel arches. I used SAE 140 oil here, as they leak oil ( or should do if the pipes are not blocked! ) and this reduces the inevitable seepage.
Hope all this helps? Have fun, as after a greasing session, you will feel very happy!
David
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Re: greasing
Hi All,
Or just a thought for Christmas! How about dropping hints for one of those battery-operated grease guns! Never had one, but they look great!
All the best,
David
Or just a thought for Christmas! How about dropping hints for one of those battery-operated grease guns! Never had one, but they look great!
All the best,
David