Whats Next?

[AlanBartlett]

It started raining today, luckly had the bonnet on, but... I was wondering is there meant to be a battery cover for the battery compartment, because drips got though the bonnet into the the battery compartment.

Also the rain gave a test for the sunroof, it leaks, a little bit any way I can seal it better?

[AlanBartlett]

So what is the procjude following putting a car back on the road, at the moment the car is currently sworn off the road, how would I go about putting it back on the road and what steps do i need to take, is it mot first or insurance or tax?

[Keith Clements]

Insurance first, then arrange MOT, if you drive there I think you are legal; but it might be best not to risk it as insurance might not be valid.
Pat should be able to say if the MOT man can accept car on Statutory Off Road Notification. If he can't then you will need to get it off SORN. Should be able to do that on-line! Then TAx and enjoy.

[Keith Andrews]

MoT, I believe this is a similar WoF saftey check we havew in NZ
The local WoF guy, have a chat to him, most are good guys, well the ones who are good at their job are...
Ask if u can read the manual, take notes...its a huge manual...
He may also show, tell how to check stuff, ling pins tie rod ends , brakes etc
Then head home and put thru a dumbie check....
Get familar with what is required, how to check, because in the future its saves u a heap of messing around for u and the inspector...

[AlanBartlett]

bloody insurance, still waiting for an enquiry from footman james about me being under 25.

[roger young]

To get the car MOT'ed you need to get it insured, the car can then be driven to the test station only to a pre-arranged test, and then home again (providing there are no serious or dangerous problems with the car) you should drive to and from the test station by the shortest route

you can't tax it until it has a valid MOT and if it is currently sorned the only way to get it off sorn is to tax it, sorn is only to let DVLA that the car is not being used on the road and does not have anything to do with the MOT
if the car has been off the road for a long time and has not got HISTORIC as the taxation class you may need to go to your local DVLA office or post the application to the local office to tax it, changes can only be done by DVLA

[Tony Fearn]

Hi Alan.

Roger's spot on. However you need to have a licence to drive before you can pootle down to the MOT station yourself. Can't remember exactly but seem to remember you haven't yet passed your test. Is this correct?

From earlier posts:-

The cylinder has a paper gasket where the flange is bolted to the engine casing. You can make one yourself from good quality brown paper, but I would suggest also using Hylomar sparingly on bothe sides of the gasket.

If you take the pot off with the engine in-situ then be VERY careful when re-assembling - the piston rings are extremely prone to breaking.

There is no battery cover as standard. I used a length of rubber water hose, (the diameter of the lower ones on the car), split it longitudinally and then eased it over the bonnet flanges underneath the hinge on the bonnet. This allowed water to run into the engine compartment and not in the battery box. Make sure the length doesn't allow all the run-off water to drop on the distributor!

Bob Guiles made a sort of tray which was attached to the two radiator stays and covered the battery box. He said it was also useful for laying spanners etc. on when messing under the bonnet. If you use Terry clips underneath it, it will be easy to remove when necessary.

Where abouts does the sunroof leak?

Did you phone Footman James as I suggested, or go by the internet route?

I've just spent the last four days wiring the 'Flying Fox' and reckon there's still about 3 or 4 days toil until either everything works, or it all melts. I'm hoping for the best.

Regards,

Tony.

[AlanBartlett]

A sorn means off the road yes, i have no license yet, except a provisonal, also I havent got insurance yet, the car is not quite motable but its driveable if this makes sense, where i live there is a little car park out the back in which I have been just pottering around driving it am I ok to do so would this count as breaking the law or testing purposes for getting the car mot able? and on the road. I'm pretty sure I am breaking the law but its begging for a drive it keeps saying "drive me".

Glad to hear your getting on well with your flying fox, I was like when I started wiring, will work or will I be coughing up smoke for a while. Although the only thing that has gone wrong with my wiring is the radio, that was the second one I put in, both are now in radio heaven, as something happened still havent found the cause but, it resulted in a cloud of smoke emerging from the radio. So Ive decided not to bother, because A. the engine is wayyy wayy louder than the stereo at a sensible volume level, and B I dont think she wants a radio put in as she keeps sabotaging them.

As for the insurance Ive sent an email to customer services to footman james and havent heard anything back so might send another one or ring early next week.

As for my license failed on 2 little things, aparently I wasnt looking at my blindspots, I'm pretty sure I was, and the second thing was when I turned into a junction, my indicator auto turned off and I didint put it back on. Id so like to take my next one in the jowett, I think theyd pass me for novelty and bravery.

And the sunroof, leaks because there is a bit of missing material on the front side of the roof, which lets the water seak through to the inside, so Ive waterpoof taped it, havent tested it yet.

[Keith Clements]

Always best to take driving test in the car you have driven most. You should not have to think of where all the switches are or the corners of the car.

Our esteemed Vice Chairman should be able to help on the test front!

[Tony Fearn]

Alan,

Don't forget to tell your insurers that the engine is not the original one and is in fact an 8hp. There might not be much difference in the premium but if you ever need to claim and you've said it's a 7hp saloon there might be a bit of bother.

Tony.

[george garside]

I agree with Kieth about taking test in car you are familier with. It will also save you having to perfect the art of double declutching. Tony is quite correct re declaration of 8hp engine but I do wonder if any insurance assesor would know of or be able to detect the difference

george

[AlanBartlett]

Alan,

Don't forget to tell your insurers that the engine is not the original one and is in fact an 8hp. There might not be much difference in the premium but if you ever need to claim and you've said it's a 7hp saloon there might be a bit of bother.

Tony.

So what would it be technically wouldnt the 8hp engine make it a 8hp saloon although I dont think there were any long 8hp saloons were there? Not in jowett terninology anyway, but to insurers I guess I should let them know, and then change it back once Ive rebuilt the original engine

[george garside]

all 8's were 'long' but never refered to as such as there was no 'short' alternative. (the 8 & 10 both had the same 8ft 6inch wheelbase that seemed to be a fixture on Jowetts drawing board from 1923 to 1953!

you could just tell the insurance company that you have fitted a replacement engine number7??????????. or that you have replaced the 907cc engine with one of 946cc. On the other hand are you sure it has 8hp pots fitted as they are interchangeable and it is possible that you have an 8hp crankcase fitted with 7hp pots. ( I know of a 1935 '7' fitted with 1005cc Bradford pots) so unless you are certain that the capacity has been increased I would either say nowt or just give them the 'new' engine number.
george

[AlanBartlett]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc2JhxJ18ZE another video clip

[george garside]

Brilliant!! Well done Allan.
george