The following is on eBay at the moment: -
1 Set of two Hepolite Pistons Complete with Rings Part No ; 7667, +0.040" Oversize Std bore is 75.406mm Applications Jowett 7 H.P., 907cc, RR Type, F Type, Falcon, 5G, 6G, Comp 4.65 to 1
1929-36
The question is, what - if anything - was the 'RR Type' or the Falcon, or the 5G, or the 6G?
If these do not refer to Jowett models, might they indicate that another make of engine used similar/identical pistons?
Are you there Tony? / George? / anyone!!
Vintage pistons
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ian Howell
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From 1967 to '87 Black de Luxe Javelin MKC 1 (later 6469TU). (Sold as non-runner with tons of spares, 1987)
From about 1980 to '87 ex WD Jowett stationary engine. (Sold on)
From 1966 to present, 1930 Long Four Fabric Saloon, Dark Blue / Black.
Taken in a part-repaired state to the 2010 Centenary Rally, returned to a roadworthy state by 2013. - Given Name: Ian
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AlanBartlett
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Tony Fearn
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Hi Ian and Alan.
Bit confusing, all those types, and don't really know about the compression ratio, but there is a picture within the eBay item no. 140143693204 which shows a picture of a 'Falcon' saloon of 1936.
I'll bet they go for 'proper money' though.
The vintage cable-driven windscreen wiper I highlighted in a previous post about ebay realised £111.11 plus postage.
There's a vintage 'JOWETT' badge on eBay at the moment.
Tony.
Bit confusing, all those types, and don't really know about the compression ratio, but there is a picture within the eBay item no. 140143693204 which shows a picture of a 'Falcon' saloon of 1936.
I'll bet they go for 'proper money' though.
The vintage cable-driven windscreen wiper I highlighted in a previous post about ebay realised £111.11 plus postage.
There's a vintage 'JOWETT' badge on eBay at the moment.
Tony.
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ian Howell
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From 1966 to '67 Black deLuxe Javelin LDF 738 (Scrapped with broken chassis)
From 1967 to '87 Black de Luxe Javelin MKC 1 (later 6469TU). (Sold as non-runner with tons of spares, 1987)
From about 1980 to '87 ex WD Jowett stationary engine. (Sold on)
From 1966 to present, 1930 Long Four Fabric Saloon, Dark Blue / Black.
Taken in a part-repaired state to the 2010 Centenary Rally, returned to a roadworthy state by 2013. - Given Name: Ian
- Location: Eastbourne, East Sussex, England
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Tony: - That reminds me - I have JUST finished carving the Jowett logo to the pattern you kindly sent me. More a reflection of the fact that I easily get diverted, than actual time taken.
In between I have rebuilt the starter with a spare pinion from Jowett car Spares (Thanks Michael), removed, relined, repainted and refitted both front shock absorbers, built a replacement exhaust system from 'scratch', rebuilt the oil pump (cover was cracked and held together with Hermetite - thanks again Michael), recovered an otherwise 'dead' 6 volt battery and several other minor 'odd' jobs - all in between carving the badge.
I will post a picture of it - but then you know what it looks like anyway!!
On a secondary note, how are the badges fixed to the rads? I have assumed up to now that they had about 3 long 'studs' brazed / silver soldered to the back, with large washers or a plate on the far side of the rad core, but is this correct?
As I believe? I have said before - the devil is in the detail!
In between I have rebuilt the starter with a spare pinion from Jowett car Spares (Thanks Michael), removed, relined, repainted and refitted both front shock absorbers, built a replacement exhaust system from 'scratch', rebuilt the oil pump (cover was cracked and held together with Hermetite - thanks again Michael), recovered an otherwise 'dead' 6 volt battery and several other minor 'odd' jobs - all in between carving the badge.
I will post a picture of it - but then you know what it looks like anyway!!
On a secondary note, how are the badges fixed to the rads? I have assumed up to now that they had about 3 long 'studs' brazed / silver soldered to the back, with large washers or a plate on the far side of the rad core, but is this correct?
As I believe? I have said before - the devil is in the detail!
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Tony Fearn
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- Location: Clayton le Moors, Lancashire, the Premier County in the British Isles!!
Hi Ian.
Don't know about the fixing. "Mary Ellen's" script (small, pre-war stainless steel) is fitted by soldering a couple of copper wires to the back, passing them through the rad. core and twisting them together. I'm not too worried about the detail, I don't like devils! But perhaps Ian P will be able to help. He's not on the web.
The vintage Jowett script in my cupboard doesn't seem to have any method of fixing on the back.
Have you listened to Alan Bartlett's engine running on Youtube? What do you think?
Regards,
Tony.
Don't know about the fixing. "Mary Ellen's" script (small, pre-war stainless steel) is fitted by soldering a couple of copper wires to the back, passing them through the rad. core and twisting them together. I'm not too worried about the detail, I don't like devils! But perhaps Ian P will be able to help. He's not on the web.
The vintage Jowett script in my cupboard doesn't seem to have any method of fixing on the back.
Have you listened to Alan Bartlett's engine running on Youtube? What do you think?
Regards,
Tony.
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TedAllen
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ian Howell
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From 1966 to '67 Black deLuxe Javelin LDF 738 (Scrapped with broken chassis)
From 1967 to '87 Black de Luxe Javelin MKC 1 (later 6469TU). (Sold as non-runner with tons of spares, 1987)
From about 1980 to '87 ex WD Jowett stationary engine. (Sold on)
From 1966 to present, 1930 Long Four Fabric Saloon, Dark Blue / Black.
Taken in a part-repaired state to the 2010 Centenary Rally, returned to a roadworthy state by 2013. - Given Name: Ian
- Location: Eastbourne, East Sussex, England
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Thanks to both for that. It all seems entirely in keeping with Jowett's philosophy!
I have looked at Alan's car on Youtube. Sounds like fun after all the effort he has put in. I would have LOVED to be there when it 'fired up' for the first time!
I have had that unusual pleasure on a very few occasions - once with a long neglected Lister sawmill engine (the exhaust pipe blew off when it eventually started) and once with an engine from a Bullnose Morris, that was washed up on the beach at Newhaven. It was dismantled, rebored, new pistons and rings (strangely the bearings and valves were OK ish) and a flywheel had to be found, but back in the late 1960's that was not too difficult.
Jowett engines have not been QUITE so much fun as they had usually been in use in living memory, and the Long Four was 'stolen' by my son (see previous posts).
A(nother) detail arises from Alan's video - What type of bonnet catches should there be on my 1930 Long Four?
There are none at all at present, but there are remains of cast zinc ball-type swivel bases on the side valances (but they are screwed through to WOOD blocks on the underside of the metal!) and there are TWO sets of holes in the bonnet sides AND small brass 'knobs' rivetted to the bonnet sides for a 'sleeve' type catch to hook onto.
Oh, and whilst I am at it, there is a junction box mounted on to a bracket mounted on the front cross member that supports the radiator. So what, I hear you cry? (Don't I?).
Well I took it apart to clean it up and it looks very home-made.
It is basically rectangular, with 6 terminal posts (actually 2BA bolts passed through the base and 'nutted' on the top) and they are linked in pairs by what are clearly home-made copper strips.
The whole thing MAY have had a cover at some time, as there are two stripped threaded holes for screws to secure the cover.
Wires that once went to the headlights, sidelights and tail lamp are still in place. They have terminal reinforcements in the form of brass washers and sort of 'star' washers with the arms of the star clenched around the strands and the copper washer. (If you have got them on your cars you will know what I mean).
Question: - What are they officially called and where can I get some more?
This car has obviously been hard worked and much loved over the years, but the state it was left in eventually . . .
I have looked at Alan's car on Youtube. Sounds like fun after all the effort he has put in. I would have LOVED to be there when it 'fired up' for the first time!
I have had that unusual pleasure on a very few occasions - once with a long neglected Lister sawmill engine (the exhaust pipe blew off when it eventually started) and once with an engine from a Bullnose Morris, that was washed up on the beach at Newhaven. It was dismantled, rebored, new pistons and rings (strangely the bearings and valves were OK ish) and a flywheel had to be found, but back in the late 1960's that was not too difficult.
Jowett engines have not been QUITE so much fun as they had usually been in use in living memory, and the Long Four was 'stolen' by my son (see previous posts).
A(nother) detail arises from Alan's video - What type of bonnet catches should there be on my 1930 Long Four?
There are none at all at present, but there are remains of cast zinc ball-type swivel bases on the side valances (but they are screwed through to WOOD blocks on the underside of the metal!) and there are TWO sets of holes in the bonnet sides AND small brass 'knobs' rivetted to the bonnet sides for a 'sleeve' type catch to hook onto.
Oh, and whilst I am at it, there is a junction box mounted on to a bracket mounted on the front cross member that supports the radiator. So what, I hear you cry? (Don't I?).
Well I took it apart to clean it up and it looks very home-made.
It is basically rectangular, with 6 terminal posts (actually 2BA bolts passed through the base and 'nutted' on the top) and they are linked in pairs by what are clearly home-made copper strips.
The whole thing MAY have had a cover at some time, as there are two stripped threaded holes for screws to secure the cover.
Wires that once went to the headlights, sidelights and tail lamp are still in place. They have terminal reinforcements in the form of brass washers and sort of 'star' washers with the arms of the star clenched around the strands and the copper washer. (If you have got them on your cars you will know what I mean).
Question: - What are they officially called and where can I get some more?
This car has obviously been hard worked and much loved over the years, but the state it was left in eventually . . .
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Fitting badges...
On the Camaro, body badges have pins with self tapping nuts, but a couple of fender badges require removing the fender, a mission.
Around 20 yrs ago, I wiped clean the holes, then pushed a spread bathroom silocone sealer into the holes, on the pins and a couple very small 'dops' on the back of the badge.
Then pushed the badge on, checked the dops also spread on the body, then replaced. Remove any access if exists with a damp rag and kero.
lent a 3x2 against the badge over night.
They have never fallen off.
I put all my badges on like this...there have been instances of other's cars where vandelist suvenier collectors have pulled badges off causing panel damage...
Secured with silcone the badges can be removed, if roughly, with only small paint damge, no panel damage....they can be removed easlierly and carefully with no damage at all.
On the Camaro, body badges have pins with self tapping nuts, but a couple of fender badges require removing the fender, a mission.
Around 20 yrs ago, I wiped clean the holes, then pushed a spread bathroom silocone sealer into the holes, on the pins and a couple very small 'dops' on the back of the badge.
Then pushed the badge on, checked the dops also spread on the body, then replaced. Remove any access if exists with a damp rag and kero.
lent a 3x2 against the badge over night.
They have never fallen off.
I put all my badges on like this...there have been instances of other's cars where vandelist suvenier collectors have pulled badges off causing panel damage...
Secured with silcone the badges can be removed, if roughly, with only small paint damge, no panel damage....they can be removed easlierly and carefully with no damage at all.
My Spelling is Not Incorrect...It's 'Creative'
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ian Howell
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- Your interest in the forum: From 1962 to '63, CA Bradord LLG 125 (Repaired and used).
From 1966 to '67 Black deLuxe Javelin LDF 738 (Scrapped with broken chassis)
From 1967 to '87 Black de Luxe Javelin MKC 1 (later 6469TU). (Sold as non-runner with tons of spares, 1987)
From about 1980 to '87 ex WD Jowett stationary engine. (Sold on)
From 1966 to present, 1930 Long Four Fabric Saloon, Dark Blue / Black.
Taken in a part-repaired state to the 2010 Centenary Rally, returned to a roadworthy state by 2013. - Given Name: Ian
- Location: Eastbourne, East Sussex, England
- Contact: