Does anyone have any definitive information on the Humfrey-Seaberg or Humfrey-Sandberg freewheel device that appears to be fitted to my 1930 Long Four?
(I already know about the Technical pages on the 'old' Jowett site).
Alternatively, can anyone suggest a website where I might find some information?
Could I be spelling it wrong(ly)? i.e. HumPHrey or SeabUrg or SandbUrg.
Anyone know for sure?
Do they work? How do you drive them? (I can't see any knobs or levers).
All contributions to the debate welcome!
Free wheel devices
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ian Howell
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ian Howell
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From 1966 to '67 Black deLuxe Javelin LDF 738 (Scrapped with broken chassis)
From 1967 to '87 Black de Luxe Javelin MKC 1 (later 6469TU). (Sold as non-runner with tons of spares, 1987)
From about 1980 to '87 ex WD Jowett stationary engine. (Sold on)
From 1966 to present, 1930 Long Four Fabric Saloon, Dark Blue / Black.
Taken in a part-repaired state to the 2010 Centenary Rally, returned to a roadworthy state by 2013. - Given Name: Ian
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Brian: -
Thanks for your continued interest.
Alan Benewith very kindly did a lot of research on these devices at Beaulieu and other places and eventually produced a CD with extracts from various Trade Magazines, Technical Bulletins, etc.
He has also sent a copy to Keith Clements and I believe it is now available on the Gallery.
If this is of interest to you, I would gladly send you a copy of Alan's CD.
I would be very interested in any drawings - or even good photos - that show the linkage from the driver to the Freewheel, as this is entirely missing on my car.
I guess a previous owner found it was not very beneficial and so removed the operating gear. The freewheel would of course then simply 'lock up' and drive would be 'normal'.
Thanks for your continued interest.
Alan Benewith very kindly did a lot of research on these devices at Beaulieu and other places and eventually produced a CD with extracts from various Trade Magazines, Technical Bulletins, etc.
He has also sent a copy to Keith Clements and I believe it is now available on the Gallery.
If this is of interest to you, I would gladly send you a copy of Alan's CD.
I would be very interested in any drawings - or even good photos - that show the linkage from the driver to the Freewheel, as this is entirely missing on my car.
I guess a previous owner found it was not very beneficial and so removed the operating gear. The freewheel would of course then simply 'lock up' and drive would be 'normal'.
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Keith Clements
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Hello Ian,
Ian Priestley might know something about this. He's not on the Web. Give him a ring. If he doesn't know, he'll probably know someone that does.
I've just edited this post.
I have occasionally used the reference library at the National Motor Museum at Beaulieu when "on duty" at the Club stand during the Autojumble. They have a wealth of literature in their archive as well as photographs.
They also respond to specific written queries and have a photocopy facility (which incurs a charge). It might be an idea to contact them if all else fails.
Tony.
Ian Priestley might know something about this. He's not on the Web. Give him a ring. If he doesn't know, he'll probably know someone that does.
I've just edited this post.
I have occasionally used the reference library at the National Motor Museum at Beaulieu when "on duty" at the Club stand during the Autojumble. They have a wealth of literature in their archive as well as photographs.
They also respond to specific written queries and have a photocopy facility (which incurs a charge). It might be an idea to contact them if all else fails.
Tony.
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ian Howell
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From 1966 to '67 Black deLuxe Javelin LDF 738 (Scrapped with broken chassis)
From 1967 to '87 Black de Luxe Javelin MKC 1 (later 6469TU). (Sold as non-runner with tons of spares, 1987)
From about 1980 to '87 ex WD Jowett stationary engine. (Sold on)
From 1966 to present, 1930 Long Four Fabric Saloon, Dark Blue / Black.
Taken in a part-repaired state to the 2010 Centenary Rally, returned to a roadworthy state by 2013. - Given Name: Ian
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As I said, Alan Benewith collated LOADS of information from things like The Autocar, Light Car, and various other sources and loaded them on the CD he kindly sent me. (Keith: - I will send you a copy - I think it is too big for my eMail system).
All in all, most of the technical data is on his CD, but: -
The lever linkage that operate the freewheel is missing - I suppose a previous owner felt it did not give a great advantage - but I would like the OPTION of getting it back into working order.
If anyone has drawings, sketches or even reasonable photographs that give the general arrangement, that would be very helpul.
Following the resuscitation of the engine, it transpired that the oil relief valve was seized solid - so 90+psi on the guage!
Stripped and cleaned and reset to about 20psi, all seems OK (for now anyway).
Now to weld up the exhaust sections and finish off stripping and repainting the wheels (2 to go). Then I suppose it's on to the front end.
I wonder what I will find there . . . . ?
The next-to-last one has had a couple of BIG dents in it, both filled quite well with braze. I assume that this was one of the effects of the rear end 'shunt' that bent the chassis cross-tube and smashed much of the rear woodwork - this was possibly the 'spare' wheel at the time and took much of the impact as it sat in the spare wheel carrier.
Getting a bit 'forensic', but it all adds to the interest!
All in all, most of the technical data is on his CD, but: -
The lever linkage that operate the freewheel is missing - I suppose a previous owner felt it did not give a great advantage - but I would like the OPTION of getting it back into working order.
If anyone has drawings, sketches or even reasonable photographs that give the general arrangement, that would be very helpul.
Following the resuscitation of the engine, it transpired that the oil relief valve was seized solid - so 90+psi on the guage!
Stripped and cleaned and reset to about 20psi, all seems OK (for now anyway).
Now to weld up the exhaust sections and finish off stripping and repainting the wheels (2 to go). Then I suppose it's on to the front end.
I wonder what I will find there . . . . ?
The next-to-last one has had a couple of BIG dents in it, both filled quite well with braze. I assume that this was one of the effects of the rear end 'shunt' that bent the chassis cross-tube and smashed much of the rear woodwork - this was possibly the 'spare' wheel at the time and took much of the impact as it sat in the spare wheel carrier.
Getting a bit 'forensic', but it all adds to the interest!