Stelvio videos.
30 years ago I did this as a timed stage with the same car. The car is younger now!
https://youtu.be/vYvoQZwXvCI
https://youtu.be/76LFnHq1SpQ
https://youtu.be/3L47i2E9jOg
https://youtu.be/UC3nUM7fmz8
https://youtu.be/2j9wE9l40qc
Rally in Switzerland 2018
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Re: Rally in Switzerland 2018
Great stuff.
I for one am enjoying your journey.
I for one am enjoying your journey.
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Re: Rally in Switzerland 2018
Love it!!!!!! just great...
owner of the jowett javelin Standard 1950 from new zealand,
there is no jowett club in switzerland. flying under "Rest of the World"
me name: peter pfister
there is no jowett club in switzerland. flying under "Rest of the World"
me name: peter pfister
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3 passes on our way to Cortina.
The Jup reliving its youth from 30 years ago.
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Tre Cime the Jup relives the special stage and I nearly die hiking to see some spectacular views.
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Now in Innsbruck taking the easy road over the Brenner pass but not the autoroute.
There are the world cycling championships going on right outside our flat which is above the Irish pub close to the old town.
Said goodbye to Cortina in the early morning cold.
Said goodbye to Cortina in the early morning cold.
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Re: Rally in Switzerland 2018
Loads of pictures from Keith and Scott on their way to , at and from the Rally in Belgium, France, Italy, Austria, Switzerland and Germany.
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Scott and Keith Distance
We travelled 3485 km or 2165 miles on our journey through England, France, Belgium, Luxembourg, Switzerland, Austria and Germany.
Our main issue was a vibration from the prop shaft which I had meant to fix before leaving, having fitted two Jubilee clips in preparation. We suffered the vibration which could be minimized by changing in and out of overdrive.
The vibration was considerably reduced on return using the vibration meter which showed reduction from well over 60 m/s to 25 m/s with the repositioning of the clips and the addition of two more. No doubt more testing could reduce this but it is now acceptable. Wish we had taken the hour before the trip to do this.
An inspection on the lift found a couple of loose nuts on the overdrive and the overdrive earth wire needing a few more strands.
The spark plug colours were all perfect and now all engine oil leaks seem cured, although there is still one from the front of the gearbox. We used 9 litres of oil on the trip.
Our main issue was a vibration from the prop shaft which I had meant to fix before leaving, having fitted two Jubilee clips in preparation. We suffered the vibration which could be minimized by changing in and out of overdrive.
The vibration was considerably reduced on return using the vibration meter which showed reduction from well over 60 m/s to 25 m/s with the repositioning of the clips and the addition of two more. No doubt more testing could reduce this but it is now acceptable. Wish we had taken the hour before the trip to do this.
An inspection on the lift found a couple of loose nuts on the overdrive and the overdrive earth wire needing a few more strands.
The spark plug colours were all perfect and now all engine oil leaks seem cured, although there is still one from the front of the gearbox. We used 9 litres of oil on the trip.
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Re: Rally in Switzerland 2018
Keith
I suspect you mean mm/s. Even so 25 mm/s to 60 mm/s is pretty serious.
Many companies would scrap/rebuild equipment with 5 mm/s
It is good however to be able to prove that adjustments are showing real measurable improvements.
I suspect you mean mm/s. Even so 25 mm/s to 60 mm/s is pretty serious.
Many companies would scrap/rebuild equipment with 5 mm/s
It is good however to be able to prove that adjustments are showing real measurable improvements.
Compliments of the Season,
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Re: Reliving the Pirelli Marathon
Thirty years ago I did the first Pirelli Marathon followed by four others, so with my Jupiter rebuilt after 50 years of ownership it was time to take 'Josephine' back to see how she now performed on the famous passes in the Alps and Dolomites.
The first Marathon went from London to Cortina and back visiting Spa, the Schlumpf collection at Mulhouse, Monza and then up across many passes including the mighty Stelvio, Falzarego and Tre Cime.
Our first stop was in Peer where a Jowett friend, Jaak Jacobs, organises a classic car gathering on a Thursday evening in the small town of Peer. Over three years this has built into a few hundred classic cars and 10000 people attending . Amazing. His two Jupiters and mine were displayed on a red carpet in front of the bandstand where a nine piece band played.
Somehow the hood frame had fractured so we took it to a local truck body builder who welded it up.
Next stop was the Spa Francorchamps race circuit where Richard Gane was racing his Jupiter. We had organised to stay in an ancient forge on a farm in the depths of the Ardenne and travelled in every day. During this time the Jup did some serious off roading in an attempt to find a phone lost whilst out for a morning run.
New club members, the Peeters, looking for ideas.
On the Monday there was a long drive south, not following the main road all the way but taking in the Bonhomme pass into Colmar that I remember doing on a very snowy Monte Carlo rally. This dropped us down into the tourist village of Riquewihr for a taste of local wine.
After a repeat visit to the Mulhouse car collection where this Simca that was beaten by the Jupiter in the 1950 Le Mans 24 Hours was displayed, we travelled right across Switzerland avoiding the motorway for most of the way and taking the ancient Kandersteg autorail through the Alps. Our destination was Boveno on Lago Maggiore where we had the most fantastic meal in Amélie's restaurant, that is after the Martini by the shore and the Gelati. The car which was covered in dust from our off road drive had been washed at the top of a Swiss pass using the water from an Alpine stream. It had to look good for those many Italians about to admire it!
Then a winding road along the shores of Maggiore to the Monza race circuit where there was a Formula practice going on. Free entry and we got into the pits and to many places around the track. A great picture with Fangio and his Mercedes.
This experience was followed by a couple of nights beside Lago Como and a visit to the Moto Guzzi museum. We gave the car a service here, as it was well over its 500 mile service interval, whilst fitting a replacement tube to a leaking tyre.
The Google map route
Approaching the Stelvio from St Moritz was less crowded than the two other ways up and I enjoyed the many hairpins. I remembered the various incidents that took place on the few rallies I did that incorporated the pass.
A stay in Merano and then a visit to the Iceman museum in Bolzano before tackling the sequence of passes in Cortina. There were some great narrow uncrowded roads to enjoy the car. and some eye watering views along the way.
Cortina has changed so much since I was there with most of the old buildings replaced with high class shops. But my dream of doing the Tre Cime again materialised on a day when the weather could not have been better. It is now quite a busy tourist drive on a toll road so only occasional chances to have a spirited climb.
The Google map route
The drive up to Innsbruck was mostly via the old road rather than the new motorway that carves its way up the valley. We had an AirBNB right in the centre of the old town on the World Championship Cycling Route so, since the roads were closed most of the day, the Jupiter stayed in the underground car park. These closures also caused us to miss the 4 other Jowetts that had come in on the Autorail from Dusseldorf, They had a police escort out of the city and bypassed us waiting at a petrol station. Never mind this gave me a chance to relive my trip over the Arlberg pass in a Mini van with summer tyres during Christmas 1966. We had slept in the van at minus 20 deg C overnight and were awoken by the snow plough which we followed up the pass to see cars trapped for 6 weeks under 3m of snow.
Then some more off roading as we tried to find our way out of Austria and into Switzerland to join the rest of the Jowetts for the rally in Arbon.
Amy, the vice chairman of the Jowett Car Club, exhilarating the cheese makers we visited.
The return trip narative to follow.
The first Marathon went from London to Cortina and back visiting Spa, the Schlumpf collection at Mulhouse, Monza and then up across many passes including the mighty Stelvio, Falzarego and Tre Cime.
Our first stop was in Peer where a Jowett friend, Jaak Jacobs, organises a classic car gathering on a Thursday evening in the small town of Peer. Over three years this has built into a few hundred classic cars and 10000 people attending . Amazing. His two Jupiters and mine were displayed on a red carpet in front of the bandstand where a nine piece band played.
Somehow the hood frame had fractured so we took it to a local truck body builder who welded it up.
Next stop was the Spa Francorchamps race circuit where Richard Gane was racing his Jupiter. We had organised to stay in an ancient forge on a farm in the depths of the Ardenne and travelled in every day. During this time the Jup did some serious off roading in an attempt to find a phone lost whilst out for a morning run.
New club members, the Peeters, looking for ideas.
On the Monday there was a long drive south, not following the main road all the way but taking in the Bonhomme pass into Colmar that I remember doing on a very snowy Monte Carlo rally. This dropped us down into the tourist village of Riquewihr for a taste of local wine.
After a repeat visit to the Mulhouse car collection where this Simca that was beaten by the Jupiter in the 1950 Le Mans 24 Hours was displayed, we travelled right across Switzerland avoiding the motorway for most of the way and taking the ancient Kandersteg autorail through the Alps. Our destination was Boveno on Lago Maggiore where we had the most fantastic meal in Amélie's restaurant, that is after the Martini by the shore and the Gelati. The car which was covered in dust from our off road drive had been washed at the top of a Swiss pass using the water from an Alpine stream. It had to look good for those many Italians about to admire it!
Then a winding road along the shores of Maggiore to the Monza race circuit where there was a Formula practice going on. Free entry and we got into the pits and to many places around the track. A great picture with Fangio and his Mercedes.
This experience was followed by a couple of nights beside Lago Como and a visit to the Moto Guzzi museum. We gave the car a service here, as it was well over its 500 mile service interval, whilst fitting a replacement tube to a leaking tyre.
The Google map route
Approaching the Stelvio from St Moritz was less crowded than the two other ways up and I enjoyed the many hairpins. I remembered the various incidents that took place on the few rallies I did that incorporated the pass.
A stay in Merano and then a visit to the Iceman museum in Bolzano before tackling the sequence of passes in Cortina. There were some great narrow uncrowded roads to enjoy the car. and some eye watering views along the way.
Cortina has changed so much since I was there with most of the old buildings replaced with high class shops. But my dream of doing the Tre Cime again materialised on a day when the weather could not have been better. It is now quite a busy tourist drive on a toll road so only occasional chances to have a spirited climb.
The Google map route
The drive up to Innsbruck was mostly via the old road rather than the new motorway that carves its way up the valley. We had an AirBNB right in the centre of the old town on the World Championship Cycling Route so, since the roads were closed most of the day, the Jupiter stayed in the underground car park. These closures also caused us to miss the 4 other Jowetts that had come in on the Autorail from Dusseldorf, They had a police escort out of the city and bypassed us waiting at a petrol station. Never mind this gave me a chance to relive my trip over the Arlberg pass in a Mini van with summer tyres during Christmas 1966. We had slept in the van at minus 20 deg C overnight and were awoken by the snow plough which we followed up the pass to see cars trapped for 6 weeks under 3m of snow.
Then some more off roading as we tried to find our way out of Austria and into Switzerland to join the rest of the Jowetts for the rally in Arbon.
Amy, the vice chairman of the Jowett Car Club, exhilarating the cheese makers we visited.
The return trip narative to follow.
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Swiss Rally 2018
Arbon, Lake Konstanz<br />Advanced announcement : Swiss Rally September 2018.
Organised Schedule: afternoon 27th September until morning 1st October 2018 around Lake Konstanz (Bodensee).
There are tentative plans to include Goodwood Revival 7th-9th Sept, Spa Classic Racing and Mulhouse car collection in a Grand Tour along some beautiful roads taking a leisurely 21 days. (13 Sep-4 Oct)
Please indicate your interest in the Grand Tour. Email:swissrally2018@jowett.net<br>
Alternatively link up with others along the way, Calais to Arbon is 530 miles/850km along the motorway, possible Motorrail or car transporter
Thursday 27th September
Arrive in the afternoon at the Frohsinn Hotel for reception, lots to see in Arbon within walking distance
17:00 Welcome drinks
Evening meal available in hotel.
Friday 28th September
8:00 Start –country drive
9:30 Choice between exclusive view of military vehicle factory ** or tour of sweet factory ** and shopping.
12:00 Lunch in Gottleben next to sweet factory and River Rhein
13:00 Country drive to Arennenberg (Napoleon’s Castle)
15:00 Small cheese factory Bischofszell with cheese tasting and apple cider **
Drive to Hagenwil Castle for tea and cakes (picture opportunity)
20:00 Meal in hotel ** (3 course meal)
Saturday 29th September
8:30 Start –country drive
10:00 Chocolate makers ** and country drive
12:30 Lunch Appenzell and sightseeing
14:30 - 16:30 Try your aim at the shooting range (300 meter) for all - with Instructors ** including coffee/tea and homemade cake **.
18.30-11.30 Meal out, transport provided**.
Sunday 30th September
9:30 Lakeside drive, optional hill climb (in your car), funicular railway ** for the non-hill-climbers.
12:00 small lunch
14:00 - 2nd World War fort **, walk, afternoon tea/coffee with homemade cakes
19:00 Meal with prize giving and farewell **
Monday 1st October
Possible trip in a 1936 classic boat with maximum capacity of 25 people (50SF each). Weather permitting, full refund if cancelled.
We need to fill the boat so please indicate your interest or pay now by adding to the booking fee. Email:swissrally2018@jowett.net
Accommodation is to be booked directly (stating Jowett2018 to get discount).
Hotel Frohsinn 100SF single, 130SF for double, 180SF family of four for bed and breakfast. Limited number of rooms. Romanshornerstrasse 15,CH-9320 Arbon. Telefon +41 71 447 84 84. Email: info@frohsinn-arbon.ch<br>
Hotel Seegarten 155.-SF/2 person/night for bed and breakfast, 12 minutes’ walk. Conny and Gerry Kulnik, Seestrasse, 66, 9320, Arbon, Switzerland, Tel. +41 71 447 57 57, Fax +41 71 447 57 58, Email: info@hotelseegarten.ch
Camping Buchhorn -Approximately 30SF/person/night for fully serviced site, 17 minutes’ walk . Philosophenweg 17, 9320 Arbon, +41 71 446 65 45 http://www.arbon.ch/freizeit_tourismus/camping
Please send an email now to keith.clements@gmail.com expressing your interest for this event with any questions you may have. Email:swissrally2018@jowett.net<br>
You can pay for the event package now and reserve your place! 297SF per person includes 3 evening meals Friday, Saturday, Sunday and the organized activities specified with a **, (not accommodation, lunches, teas or drinks). Plus 50SF per person for optional boat trip.
Payment by PayPal or other personal arrangement (e.g. SEPA) with Peter Pfister (PayPal account 0714464628@telekabel.ch) or Keith Clements by BACS (details on request). Receipt of payment will be by email. Refunds for cancellation will be made less any expenses incurred.
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Organised Schedule: afternoon 27th September until morning 1st October 2018 around Lake Konstanz (Bodensee).
There are tentative plans to include Goodwood Revival 7th-9th Sept, Spa Classic Racing and Mulhouse car collection in a Grand Tour along some beautiful roads taking a leisurely 21 days. (13 Sep-4 Oct)
Please indicate your interest in the Grand Tour. Email:swissrally2018@jowett.net<br>
Alternatively link up with others along the way, Calais to Arbon is 530 miles/850km along the motorway, possible Motorrail or car transporter
Thursday 27th September
Arrive in the afternoon at the Frohsinn Hotel for reception, lots to see in Arbon within walking distance
17:00 Welcome drinks
Evening meal available in hotel.
Friday 28th September
8:00 Start –country drive
9:30 Choice between exclusive view of military vehicle factory ** or tour of sweet factory ** and shopping.
12:00 Lunch in Gottleben next to sweet factory and River Rhein
13:00 Country drive to Arennenberg (Napoleon’s Castle)
15:00 Small cheese factory Bischofszell with cheese tasting and apple cider **
Drive to Hagenwil Castle for tea and cakes (picture opportunity)
20:00 Meal in hotel ** (3 course meal)
Saturday 29th September
8:30 Start –country drive
10:00 Chocolate makers ** and country drive
12:30 Lunch Appenzell and sightseeing
14:30 - 16:30 Try your aim at the shooting range (300 meter) for all - with Instructors ** including coffee/tea and homemade cake **.
18.30-11.30 Meal out, transport provided**.
Sunday 30th September
9:30 Lakeside drive, optional hill climb (in your car), funicular railway ** for the non-hill-climbers.
12:00 small lunch
14:00 - 2nd World War fort **, walk, afternoon tea/coffee with homemade cakes
19:00 Meal with prize giving and farewell **
Monday 1st October
Possible trip in a 1936 classic boat with maximum capacity of 25 people (50SF each). Weather permitting, full refund if cancelled.
We need to fill the boat so please indicate your interest or pay now by adding to the booking fee. Email:swissrally2018@jowett.net
Accommodation is to be booked directly (stating Jowett2018 to get discount).
Hotel Frohsinn 100SF single, 130SF for double, 180SF family of four for bed and breakfast. Limited number of rooms. Romanshornerstrasse 15,CH-9320 Arbon. Telefon +41 71 447 84 84. Email: info@frohsinn-arbon.ch<br>
Hotel Seegarten 155.-SF/2 person/night for bed and breakfast, 12 minutes’ walk. Conny and Gerry Kulnik, Seestrasse, 66, 9320, Arbon, Switzerland, Tel. +41 71 447 57 57, Fax +41 71 447 57 58, Email: info@hotelseegarten.ch
Camping Buchhorn -Approximately 30SF/person/night for fully serviced site, 17 minutes’ walk . Philosophenweg 17, 9320 Arbon, +41 71 446 65 45 http://www.arbon.ch/freizeit_tourismus/camping
Please send an email now to keith.clements@gmail.com expressing your interest for this event with any questions you may have. Email:swissrally2018@jowett.net<br>
You can pay for the event package now and reserve your place! 297SF per person includes 3 evening meals Friday, Saturday, Sunday and the organized activities specified with a **, (not accommodation, lunches, teas or drinks). Plus 50SF per person for optional boat trip.
Payment by PayPal or other personal arrangement (e.g. SEPA) with Peter Pfister (PayPal account 0714464628@telekabel.ch) or Keith Clements by BACS (details on request). Receipt of payment will be by email. Refunds for cancellation will be made less any expenses incurred.
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