Hydraulic camshafts

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Re: Hydraulic camshafts

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Hi,

Thanks Jack! I recollect that the Mk.1 Ford Consul and Zephyr looked very similar to the front aspect of the CD. Indeed, there might have been a possibility that some of the Jowett tooling was re-used by Ford's? See page 200 of ' The Complete Jowett History'. Arthur Jobling apparently asked Briggs towards the end of 1953 if they would consider helping to dispose of the tools, dies, jigs etc. left over from the CD development......

The CD range may look out-dated to us now, but in the early 1950's they would have been quite modern and Ford's managed to sell quite a few of their new models!

David
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Re: Hydraulic camshafts

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robert lintott wrote:I agree, they were all dull at the time except for the Mini van which was a bit later and very entertaining ! I assumed the CD was a Javelin successor but was it not , was there one ? Bob
Not aware of a Javelin successor, but they were evidently planning the R4 to replace the Jupiter, the CD to replace the Bradford, and who knows what else was possible if they had carried on. They certainly seemed to have the engines worked out by 54, and the gearbox issues were sorted, so with a few tweaks the same running gear could have been modified a bit and would have no issue in the reliability stakes as many cars from the 60s.

Thinking about it, wasn't JKU 700 mentioned earlier in the thread Horace Grimley's car? I found a lot of references to "JKU" in the literature about the cars, but it always seemed to turn out to be JKU 700. It is a historically important car, it had various modifications too - these were documented, including a wide bore exhaust system, no idea if the car actually survived though.

Jack.
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Re: Hydraulic camshafts

Post by george garside »

[quote="David Morris"]Hi,

Thanks Jack! I recollect that the Mk.1 Ford Consul and Zephyr looked very similar to the front aspect of the CD. Indeed, there might have been a possibility that some of the Jowett tooling was re-used by Ford's? See page 200 of ' The Complete Jowett History'. Arthur Jobling apparently asked Briggs towards the end of 1953 if they would consider helping to dispose of the tools, dies, jigs etc. left over from the CD development......

The CD range may look out-dated to us now, but in the early 1950's they would have been quite modern and Ford's managed to sell quite a few of their new models!

David[/quote]

The Mk1 consul and Zephyr were introduced in Oct 1950 at Earles Court motor show. The first CD prototype GKY540 which was known as ''the tram'' was not constructed until late 1950 i.e. after the Mk1 Fords were in production. Furthurmore the ''Tram' had a body constructed by JCC Experimental departemt using Javelin parts as much as possible the body being made for the sole purpose of facilitating road testing of the prototype chassis etc. It bore no resemblance to the Briggs prototype CD's. So the Fords definitely did not use any ''Jowett'' panels!

george
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Re: Hydraulic camshafts

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To add mystery, Jack Stiff in New Zealand owned two CD;s both became rust buckets, but he said one appeared to have a ford consul front grafted on! Who or what became of his CD's I can't remember. He did not like the driving position(too low) preferring his Javelin. He was also dissapointed they rusted so quickly, he burst a rust bubble & water poured out of the sills.As a die hard Jowett man the cars would be now in a NZ members hands I doubt he would have scrapped them.
Good memories of Bradfords.
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Re: Hydraulic camshafts

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I believe that one of those CD's was rebuilt by Vic Morrison in South Island of New Zealand as a sort of Jupiter.
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Re: Hydraulic camshafts

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I love the way, Jowett talk starts on one topic Hydraulic cams, & deviates to another CD Bradfords. This is a good community to belong to.
Good memories of Bradfords.
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