How Heavy

[Alastair Gregg]

Anybody a rough figure on the weight of a Jupiter engine with all the bits and pieces on (Flywheel, Bell housing, Dizzy, Dynamo, Carbs, Starter etc) Am trying to over specify a winch for my new garage.

Thanks in anticipation

[TedAllen]

Hi Al,

I have a Javelin engine complete with all the bits and with a gearbox fitted waiting to go in my car. I,ll weigh it tomorrow and post back to you although my scale only goes up to 20 stone so I can't guarantee a result/
Regards
Ted

[TedAllen]

woops, posted my previous twice so hopefully deleted it

[Alastair Gregg]

Hello Ted

Thanks for offering. I hope you don't get yourself in lumber with er indoors on my account.

[TedAllen]

Hi Al,
No problem, got some old mechanical scales used for the caravan noseweight. I have, for some years lifted my engine using ratchet straps. You know the orange ones you see at car shows. I wouldnt use those cheap ones but that is the size I use. Mine are good quality industrial ones.
I pass them round each side of the engine block and over a steel joist and ratchet them up as far as I can. I then fit another pair and using both pairs I lift the engine to the height i want. I have two really solid drawing office stools from tje 1930s which I lower the lump onto for work. The engine can be lifted off the stools and rolled over quite easily in the straps. A bit long winded but the rolling facility is useful and it all works. Drive over sometime and have a look.
Ted

[Forumadmin]

Don't forget to do the calculations on what the winch is attached to!
Mind you I just lift the thing out myself; but may need a winch soon as I am not as fit as I used to be!

[Keith Andrews]

Instead of a winch, why not get or build an engine hoist....
There are some very cheap foldaway ones on the market now,
They are strong enough to pull a sb chevy plus a trans.
The trans alone would weigh more than the jowett engine.

What I did for many yrs...
Unbolt everything, head down to the hire shop, hook up a hoist on the tow ball, remove engine/trans, then return it an hr later
The cost over 10 yrs was far cheaper than purchasing/building one.

If working on engines on the bench often, an engine stand is a must, if this is the case, and budgets tight, I would go the engine stand and hire hoist option every time.

[TedAllen]

The engine hoist is a very good idea although with a Javelin a small wheeled trolley is all that is needed. I had an engine lift for many years but I don't do engines and clutches now...too old and much wiser !
My strap system is only really of use for a boxer engine and of course you can use the straps for all sorts of other purposes.
I put the engine on Ann's kitchen scales this morning and it flattened them. When I came out of hiding I did the job properly and found that the engine with a full sump, no dynamo and with clutch and gearbox attached weighed in at 124 kg or 273 lb 0r 19.5 stone. Keith must be a right wimp.....I normally fit it into the car by lifting it with my teeth so as to keep both hands free. It did eventually pull them out so I had to devise other ways.
Ted

[Alastair Gregg]

Thanks Ted

I was working on 150 Kg so taking Keiths point if the winch handles 150 KG then the structure to hold it all should handle twice that for safetys sake.

Please don't tell Ann who I am.

Thanks for your help

[Keith Andrews]

"Keith must be a right wimp"
IMAO...
No just lazy...work hard at it..
lazy doesnt mean not doing anything, just means working out how to do it effective with least effort.
Oh I sort of had a serious accident a few yrs back....doesnt mean things cant be achieved, just means methods have to be re thought
Cheers
Steps

[TedAllen]

I meant the English Keith, not the Kiwi one. Didn't mean to insult you rufty-tufty types down under !
Ted

[TedAllen]

I meant the English Keith, not the Kiwi one. Didn't mean to insult you rufty-tufty types down under !
Ted