Pictures of an Early saloon?

James Baxter · Post by **James Baxter** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:20 pm

Has anyone got any pictures of a really early saloon car please? Must be at least 1930 or earlier. I've seen the grey 1930 car from the Netherlands.
Ideally a Short Chassis, but any images would be useful, and earlier the better.
Many thanks,
James
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ian Howell · Post by **ian Howell** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 9:18 pm

I don't think there were that many saloon models before 1930, but the 'Greenhouse' model might fit the bill as I gAther it was the first saloon model (1928?).

Michael Koch-Osbourne may be able to help.

george garside · Post by **george garside** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:42 pm

The first saloon was the 'greenhouse' on long chhassis for 1926 on long chassis only. The first 'short' saloon was for 1929 model year. Presume there will be photos somewhere on the gallery of this website.

george

James Baxter · Post by **James Baxter** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:52 am

Pictures of a short saloon would be preferable.
Does such a car survive?
I can't see any pictures of such a car in the gallery, but I may be searching in the wrong places.

I'd like to build such a car, because in order to take my young children VSCC trialling I must have a saloon.

Tony Fearn · Post by **Tony Fearn** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:20 am

Hello James,

I can't seem to find you in the 2012 JCC membership list.

Where are you in the U.K.?

Tony.

James Baxter · Post by **James Baxter** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:01 am

I thought I'd take a 2013 membership as 2012 is a bit "far in" now.

I'm in Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, but I zip around all over the country regularly

Post by **Forumadmin** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:10 pm

If you join after August as a new member then membership lasts for 15 months. http://jowett.org/join.htm at the bottom. What a bargain!
Welcome to the club James! and hope to see a full blog of your rebuild on JowettTalk and the JowettGallery

Tony Fearn · Post by **Tony Fearn** » Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:05 am

James wrote:I thought I'd take a 2013 membership.

In that case James, welcome to the Club and to JowettTalk.

I'm a little confused as to what you are actually looking for when you mention early saloons, especially pre-1930 ones, and then in another post ask about 1932 chassis differences.

Let us know a little more structured detail of what you already have, or if it's just and idea at the moment, and if so, are you talking vintage (i.e. pre-1930) or early pre-war (i.e. 1930 to 1934)?

Are you hoping to re-construct a saloon from scratch, whatever the year?

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This is my 1934 short saloon.

Tony.

george garside · Post by **george garside** » Thu Dec 20, 2012 4:11 pm

attached pic of 1930 short faabric saloon this being the last one on the vintage chassis. '29 was similar but with 2 wheel brakes

James Baxter · Post by **James Baxter** » Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:13 pm

I've got a 1924 Short 2 almost finished and a 1927 Short 2 which is ready to roll, both 2 seater and dickey.
To be VSCC eligible they have to be 1930 or earlier.
To trial in the VSCC they have to be a saloon until the children are 12 years old.
So I can either make a hard top for the '27 car, adding a roof to what's already there, or use some of my spares, along with "a" chassis and build a Short 2 saloon.
Must say the '34 car is very pretty indeed. I like it a lot.
The 1930 car is more angular, less pretty (OK which member have I offended!!) but probably easier to make.
Where does this 1930 car reside? Up North by any chance?
Who owns BV 3232? ie the pretty version, yet 1930.
cheers,
JB

george garside · Post by **george garside** » Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:29 pm

Perhaps a way forward would be to remove the bodywork from the screen/scuttle rearwards ( and store it for later replacent ) and replaace it with a simple 'woody' shooting brake body which I presume could be deemed a 'saloon' for VCCC purposes. This would be much easier to construct than a proper replica slaloon body . I could also arguably be ''in keeping'' as a great many such 'conversions' were made on all sorts of cars in the 1930''s to replace 1920'sfabric bodies that were on the verge of collapse. The earliest 'woody' on a Jowett I have seen is the 1931 long chassis version owned by a club member.

george

James Baxter · Post by **James Baxter** » Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:07 pm

This is the lad so keen to go trialling!
Progress as at the Jowett re-union at Bradford Industrial Museum in July this year.

And the state of play at the moment

AlanBartlett · Post by **AlanBartlett** » Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:30 pm

Hello James,

Again welcome to the forum, I absolutely love the top pic of the two youve just posted. Starting there interest young. Where abouts are you going to be trialing eventually once your all built up?

James Baxter · Post by **James Baxter** » Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:49 pm

The VSCC.
Harry is 5, Tilly is 2 and even more keen!
Attached, Is this one a short or long wheelbase?
Is that radiator a later one?
Is this still owned by MD K-O?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sg2012/7797406232/
Link won't work, sorry.

george garside · Post by **george garside** » Sat Dec 22, 2012 8:10 pm

James - that is the original first saloon made on long chassis only ( & it is as far as I know still owned by Mike KO ) The long 4 and saloon both had a higher mounted radiator with the starting handle hole at the bottom rather than part way up. There was no short version ,

george

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