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Tony Fearn
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May be of interest:-

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/190658651156? ... 1423.l2649

-and have a look at their other Jowett bits.

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Re: eBay again

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This is a 3 speed gearbox believed to fit a 1930,s 7 hp Jowett.

There is also a separate casing and a lid with lever

Sold as seen for parts, there are also some rusty gears , not shown , which can be included.

Please note we will not relist these Jowett parts, if there are no bids, it will be scrapped

So this brings to the fore as to who buys. Do we have a club policy to make sure such things are not scrapped or do we just leave it to individuals ? The safe thing to do is to make sure at least one bid (above the reserve) is made.
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Re: eBay again

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the 3 speedbox is a 1932/33 but may well fit 1930/31 which had the filler on top plate rather than halfway up side as on the ebay box.

The casing etc is a 33/36 4 speed.

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Re: eBay again

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I might try for the steering column but mine is serviceable, fairly, so if successful I might be prepared to pass it on to a deserving cause. Otherwise it would go into 'Justin Case's' stock.

But I don't want to 'jack up' the price for anyone who is in desperate need. Tricky judgement!
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Re: eBay again

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from a buyers point of view it is pointless to bid early as it only jacks up the price for everybody. I only ever put bids on anything at one minute to zero or even less. Of course if I'm selling the earlier people start to pile in the bet1er!!

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Re: eBay again

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The steering column and gearbox 'bits' are on their way to me.

If anyone is interested in the gearbox stuff, send me a PM.

The seller advises that he will shortly be offering a couple of '30s engines and some springs. All this apparently came with a Curlew, registration BAK 156, in poor but restorable condition which the garage sold at auction a couple of years back. I believe the car was owned by a Mr. Mitchell in Lowestoft in the 1970's but where is it now?

I have spoken to the vendor and he is reluctant to scrap but needs the space. He seems well disposed to interested parties - I wish I lived nearer Rugby (well for now anyway)!

Apparently when he had the Curlew for sale, some 'Jowett people' (his words) came but they seemed only to be interested in the engine and chassis numbers so he was not impressed.

He says he also has some (suspension?) springs. These could be tricky to identify as I believe there were minor - but significant - differences.

Any advice?
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Re: eBay again

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New item:-

Can the 10hp engine be sleeved back to standard??

If so these will be a steal at the price.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jowett-10HP-P ... 35ba579f84

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Re: eBay again

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There are a few '10' engine parts in Alan Benewith's 'Legacy' to the Southern Section. Also I think some wheels and oddments.

Ian Roxburgh has custody.
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Re: eBay again

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re 10hp pistons on ebay - I would think that the 10 engine is sleevable i.e there is probably enough 'meat' between the bores to allow press fit liners to be put in. However are there any liners available & if not what would be the cost of having a one off set made?

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Re: eBay again

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I don't know if this will be helpful to Jowetteers 'up country' but there is in Newhaven, the Channel Ferry port near Brighton on the south coast, a small company that regularly makes liners and re-bores or sleeves vintage engines.

They make the liners in house and have all the necessary boring tools, and they make a good job (in my experience anyway).
This type of company is becoming increasingly (decreasingly?!) rare but I suspect this may turn up some others across the country.

The company is called Allbore Auto Engineering. Tel: - 01273 611205

I HAVE NO CONNECTION WITH THE COMPANY, but my son has had a number of jobs done there, done well and not ridiculously expensive.

Might it be an idea for the Legacy project for members to create a list of 'trusted' specialist suppliers of all types of services? I am thinking for example of electroplaters, upholsterers, specialist welders (e.g. aluminium or cast iron castings) and so forth, listing example jobs done, prices paid and dates (prices do tend to go up in time!).

Any opinions out there?
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Re: eBay again

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During the SC rebuild we posted in the JowettTalk topic the suppliers that we chose.

I suggest a topic under "Cars for Sale and Spares" is started unless you feel it is something that needs to be kept for members only. If you do, then simply add an item in the "legacy project" album of the Gallery.

There is a similar call for recording the use of alternative (non-Jowett) and modern parts, perhaps with details and drawings or pictures of any mods required to make them work. Once again, posting in the Gallery is the best place as comments from others can easily be associated with the item.
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From about 1980 to '87 ex WD Jowett stationary engine. (Sold on)
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Re: eBay again

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The thing is, with a Topic, when the next topic is posted the previous ones disappear from view. I know you can 'hunt' for previous ones but I feel that to be useful to all - not just club members - the item needs always to be 'up front'.

Again, this can be done with yet another item in the Board Index, but already there are so many that some are not immediately visible when you go to that screen and I would hate to be responsible for adding to the list!

Could there be an 'up front' sub-section to Cars & Parts?

Lets see if anyone has any other ideas (hint, hint).
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They do not disappear in JowettTalk but just go further down in the history of the topics based on the last time someone posted. Searching for them surely is not that difficult! But we could suggest to use certain keywords such as 'recommended supplier' ' liner boring'.

Yes, we could add another section for recommended suppliers, and if we have enough I can move them to a newly created section. Let me say, if we get ten I will do so. But no doubt we will get complaints there are too many sections and subsections to sort through. The current thinking is not to categorise anything and just do a search.

In JowettGallery the folder structure remains reasonably constant so you have what I think you want. A place to always go to. The structure can be altered by the 'editors' of the Legacy project if they deem it sensible to rearrange things. Any Gallery member (who must be a club member) can post comments to back up any recommendation. This is possibly better than most advice forums (such as TripAdvisor.com).

If necessary a link from the home page can be set up to either JowettTalk or JowettGallery and thus be immeadiately accesible to all with the correct access rights.

One of the problems of course is who makes the decision about who is a reputable company for services. I think any recommendation has to be backed up by a post on personal experience from a club member. Then it is up to the reader to judge. Note the disclaimer on JowettTalk.
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From about 1980 to '87 ex WD Jowett stationary engine. (Sold on)
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Re: eBay again

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All seems to make sense to me. Is there anyone else out there with a view?

Certainly in my experience as Quality Manager for the European operations of a major Japanese electronic systems company, personal recommendations - i.e. customer referrals - were the main source of new customers.

I suppose someone MIGHT recommend a 'duff' supplier just for the hell of it, but see the Jowett Talk disclaimer.

Perhaps, for example, SUGGESTED suppliers would simply be added to the listing and then perhaps raised to 'APPROVED' status when at least two separate members had satisfactorily experienced their work?

They could of course also be removed from the list in the event of a poor result - or at least a caveat added.

I wonder if this topic will generate as much interest as the 'Scrap or Save' saga has!? That would be good.

Hey oop! Now here's a strange thing - isn't it? Ebay ref: - 180859026710
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From 1967 to '87 Black de Luxe Javelin MKC 1 (later 6469TU). (Sold as non-runner with tons of spares, 1987)
From about 1980 to '87 ex WD Jowett stationary engine. (Sold on)
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Taken in a part-repaired state to the 2010 Centenary Rally, returned to a roadworthy state by 2013.
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Re: eBay again

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I have just notices on the Jupiter section an appeal by 'conrod' for a jupiter steering column. Now surely this is exactly an example of what we have been discussing? Would a search by 'conrod' of reveal a possible spare 'in waiting'?

Also, I said in an earlier post about two of the lots on eBay "The steering column and gearbox 'bits' are on their way to me".

Well up to a point . . .

The steering column and wheel arived today and are pretty sound and there appears to be very little wear in the rack/pinion. The steering box mounts to the chassis by means of a loop, presumably onto a cross tube on the chassis. Mine has two lugs that bolt onto fittings on the cross tube so tricky to substitute. For now anyway.

However, due to a misunderstanding (NOT mine I think, but hey), I now also find myself in possession of two very sound back axle tubes but NOT the gearboxes, which although unsold at the end of the Ebay auction which is why I offered the asking price, now appear to have been sold and are awaiting collection. I hope to a club member!?

I only wanted to save them from scrap, so I am pleased they have found a new home. Anyone wish to comment?
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