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AlanBartlett
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1953 Jowett Bradford Lorry - Given Name: Alan
- Location: Somerset
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I will add some of my pictures up from facebook, I should really get back to using the gallery again, heres a more recent photo of what it looks like now. ...
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AlanBartlett
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1935 Weasel Sports Tourer
1936 Jowett Lorry (A basket case)
1953 Jowett Bradford Lorry - Given Name: Alan
- Location: Somerset
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Well after 3 years of a stripped down, non running engine, I can now safely say It works! Again! During those 3 years I had the the big ends re white metaled, and a rebore of the original cylinders. So with this stripped I was able to rebuild he original crankcase with match numbers. So now I have effectively an 8hp, as the cylinders have been bored out to 60 thou. As this was a my second time around of building up the engine for it, I was quite amazed how quick it progressed from start to finish was just over a week of evenings and a weekend. From looking back on the forum, alot of the information that was posted first time around
Got it up and running Monday evening, and have just been solving various exhaust leaks and oil leaks where everything is settling down. Will add video and pictures in the next few days.
Got it up and running Monday evening, and have just been solving various exhaust leaks and oil leaks where everything is settling down. Will add video and pictures in the next few days.
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Tony Fearn
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- Location: Clayton le Moors, Lancashire, the Premier County in the British Isles!!
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Sounds good Alan. Keep it up.
Tony.
Tony.
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AlanBartlett
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- Location: Somerset
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Well Id now like to add to number of the jowetts, on the road, as the long saloon, passed her mot this morning with flying colours, without an adivisory too, Still running in at the moment. Its a good feeling being able to drive her again, yet slightly faith wavering due to various hiccups on the first run and the second run to work. But on the mot run got me there i can safely say without a hitch. A photo of how she looks when play stopped earlier this afternoon
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Tony Fearn
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- Given Name: Anthony
- Location: Clayton le Moors, Lancashire, the Premier County in the British Isles!!
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Welcome back to Jowetteering Alan.
Car looks splendid, and I like the colour scheme, although rusty red wasn't all that bad.
MOT with no advisories, can't be bad.
Looking forward to seeing it in Wales next June.
Regards,
Tony.
Car looks splendid, and I like the colour scheme, although rusty red wasn't all that bad.
MOT with no advisories, can't be bad.
Looking forward to seeing it in Wales next June.
Regards,
Tony.
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Peter Holden
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Yes Alan, Very well done.
Your great grandfather and father would have been proud of you. Getting their car back on the road and looking so good. I look forward to seeing it in the flesh. Will it be at the Christmas Lunch? Last time I saw it, it was still in primer, but I could see the hard work you have put into it and it has paid off.
How about entering for the Classic car of the year? Is the listing still open, I don't know.
Your great grandfather and father would have been proud of you. Getting their car back on the road and looking so good. I look forward to seeing it in the flesh. Will it be at the Christmas Lunch? Last time I saw it, it was still in primer, but I could see the hard work you have put into it and it has paid off.
How about entering for the Classic car of the year? Is the listing still open, I don't know.
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AlanBartlett
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- Location: Somerset
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Yeah, hoping to be at the christmas lunch meet, and fingers crossed at the haynes motor museum meet at the end of september joint sw and sv meet. From photos it doesn't look too bad, but still have got a lot of polishing and flatting back to do, but now its on the road its got its certificates, i can in enjoy it for a while and polish as and when.
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k. rogers
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1935 7hp Weasel
1928 7hp Sports replica
1952 Bradford special - Given Name: Ken
- Location: Cornwall
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Alan, it's looking good!! It would be fantastic to see it at the Haynes meeting. I'm pleased you got over the initial hiccups - now you can enjoy the running in period, to and from work sounds ideal!
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AlanBartlett
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- Location: Somerset
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Am enjoying it being back on the road, but still fair amount of fettling to do, and as for running in, its going to take me a fair while to run it in, as according to the instruction manual its something like 1000 miles, which is about half of my milage quota for the year, and it taking me an hour and half to do a little over 10 miles, still needs quite a bit of sorting out, but its on the road now, ive got my ticket, so it should all come together now again.
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ian Howell
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From 1966 to '67 Black deLuxe Javelin LDF 738 (Scrapped with broken chassis)
From 1967 to '87 Black de Luxe Javelin MKC 1 (later 6469TU). (Sold as non-runner with tons of spares, 1987)
From about 1980 to '87 ex WD Jowett stationary engine. (Sold on)
From 1966 to present, 1930 Long Four Fabric Saloon, Dark Blue / Black.
Taken in a part-repaired state to the 2010 Centenary Rally, returned to a roadworthy state by 2013. - Given Name: Ian
- Location: Eastbourne, East Sussex, England
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Alan: -
WELL DONE! Glad to see you and the car back on the road after all your hard work.
With regard to the 'hiccups', are there any pointers for those of us STILL engaged in putting things back together?
I know about making sure all 'castle' nuts have split pins and making sure that brakes are balanced, but what about the likes of shock absorber and clutch settings?
I have been out of circulation throughout August but I now have another ash plank (8" x 3", cut it size BY HAND as required!) and I should be able to restart work on the back doors soon. By the way, how do you get replacement glass into the back doors? It LOOKS as if it goes in through the top of the door, but the fabric covers the top so one would have to re-cover the door if one replaced the glass - if there was any fabric left! Did Jowetts fit the glass before the door fabric was fitted? Seems a bit cock-eyed but you never know . . .
Does anyone know a source for the decorative ribbon 'trim' used around the doors and headlinings? I can't even find the right width let alone a similar pattern. Not that I need it yet!
Again, well done! Hope to see you at Llandrindod Wells.
WELL DONE! Glad to see you and the car back on the road after all your hard work.
With regard to the 'hiccups', are there any pointers for those of us STILL engaged in putting things back together?
I know about making sure all 'castle' nuts have split pins and making sure that brakes are balanced, but what about the likes of shock absorber and clutch settings?
I have been out of circulation throughout August but I now have another ash plank (8" x 3", cut it size BY HAND as required!) and I should be able to restart work on the back doors soon. By the way, how do you get replacement glass into the back doors? It LOOKS as if it goes in through the top of the door, but the fabric covers the top so one would have to re-cover the door if one replaced the glass - if there was any fabric left! Did Jowetts fit the glass before the door fabric was fitted? Seems a bit cock-eyed but you never know . . .
Does anyone know a source for the decorative ribbon 'trim' used around the doors and headlinings? I can't even find the right width let alone a similar pattern. Not that I need it yet!
Again, well done! Hope to see you at Llandrindod Wells.
The devil is in the detail!
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AlanBartlett
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- Location: Somerset
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The hiccups were hopefully something someone shouldn't encounter, like the engine, beginning to seize under load, (yet managing to idle completely normal for ages until you turn it off) this was on the way to the mot station that was the main hiccup as it were, we worked out this was due to the pistons I was using being used sh hand ones, they must have expanded ever so slightly more than the tolerances in the books. Other than that all is ok, just sorting my way through a persistant little miss fire on idle at the moment. And going around re checking all the nuts and bolts under neath.
On how the glass goes into the back doors, if your car is anything like mine, the wooden rail of the inside of the door comes out, and it slides down the runners into its mechanisim depending on what sort you have. I know on mine that it as a fabric covered rail above the inside top rail structure of the actual door. But im not sure how original this is. Will get a photo up of what im trying to describe may well make it easier.
I'm also looking forward to hopefully making to my first jowett rally with a working car, and un-aided by a trailer looking forward to the trip, although fingers crossed things should be settled down by then. Am going to use the car over the next couple of months to try and run it in a bit more, but then going to lay it up over winter to give it a break again.
On how the glass goes into the back doors, if your car is anything like mine, the wooden rail of the inside of the door comes out, and it slides down the runners into its mechanisim depending on what sort you have. I know on mine that it as a fabric covered rail above the inside top rail structure of the actual door. But im not sure how original this is. Will get a photo up of what im trying to describe may well make it easier.
I'm also looking forward to hopefully making to my first jowett rally with a working car, and un-aided by a trailer looking forward to the trip, although fingers crossed things should be settled down by then. Am going to use the car over the next couple of months to try and run it in a bit more, but then going to lay it up over winter to give it a break again.
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k. rogers
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1935 7hp Weasel
1928 7hp Sports replica
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- Location: Cornwall
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Ian - I agree with Alan in that you have to remove the wooden rail which holds the winder mechanism, then the glass should just about squeeze into the window channels from the inside of the door. However, I found this will not happen if you fit new felt window channel first! I fitted new channel to one side only, squeezed the glass in place, then slowly fed the felt stuff between glass and frame on the other side an inch at a time by pulling the glass up and down - a lovely job where you need to be out of earshot from your wife! I have no idea how they did it in the factory but it would be great to find out.
I know the decorative tape you mean and it is doubtful whether any still exists. Paul Beck vintage supplies occasionally obtains very short runs of original tape (wasn't it called 'gimp'?) but it tends to be very expensive. It would be simpler and cheaper to use 'hidem' banding in headlining material also available from Paul Beck. please let me know if you ever do find a source for the original, though.
I know the decorative tape you mean and it is doubtful whether any still exists. Paul Beck vintage supplies occasionally obtains very short runs of original tape (wasn't it called 'gimp'?) but it tends to be very expensive. It would be simpler and cheaper to use 'hidem' banding in headlining material also available from Paul Beck. please let me know if you ever do find a source for the original, though.
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ian Howell
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- Your interest in the forum: From 1962 to '63, CA Bradord LLG 125 (Repaired and used).
From 1966 to '67 Black deLuxe Javelin LDF 738 (Scrapped with broken chassis)
From 1967 to '87 Black de Luxe Javelin MKC 1 (later 6469TU). (Sold as non-runner with tons of spares, 1987)
From about 1980 to '87 ex WD Jowett stationary engine. (Sold on)
From 1966 to present, 1930 Long Four Fabric Saloon, Dark Blue / Black.
Taken in a part-repaired state to the 2010 Centenary Rally, returned to a roadworthy state by 2013. - Given Name: Ian
- Location: Eastbourne, East Sussex, England
- Contact:
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Thanks for the info on the trim. That is exactly what I have found so far - nothing!
Yes I came across the term 'gimp' too, many years ago when my mother reupholstered the family 3-piece suite and again more recently when looking for the braid, but it seemed to be more to do with fancy dress (I think!).
I have searched several handicraft shops and the websites of braid manufacturers all without turning up anything even remotely similar. The idea of headlining hidem seems reasonable but I would like to try to get it right.
I am wondering what response I might get from the professional restorers that advertise in the classic/vintage car press? Ones I have contacted on other matters in the past have always been helpful as far as they reasonably could, but without a commercial incentive the response now might be different.
Is anyone going to the Beaulieu Autojumble? (I am not this year as I think it is VERY expensive and I don't really need that much in the way of bits now - just time!). If so, half an eye on the 'software' stalls would be much appreciated.
Yes I came across the term 'gimp' too, many years ago when my mother reupholstered the family 3-piece suite and again more recently when looking for the braid, but it seemed to be more to do with fancy dress (I think!).
I have searched several handicraft shops and the websites of braid manufacturers all without turning up anything even remotely similar. The idea of headlining hidem seems reasonable but I would like to try to get it right.
I am wondering what response I might get from the professional restorers that advertise in the classic/vintage car press? Ones I have contacted on other matters in the past have always been helpful as far as they reasonably could, but without a commercial incentive the response now might be different.
Is anyone going to the Beaulieu Autojumble? (I am not this year as I think it is VERY expensive and I don't really need that much in the way of bits now - just time!). If so, half an eye on the 'software' stalls would be much appreciated.
The devil is in the detail!
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ian Howell
- Posts: 963
- Joined: Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:46 am
- Your interest in the forum: From 1962 to '63, CA Bradord LLG 125 (Repaired and used).
From 1966 to '67 Black deLuxe Javelin LDF 738 (Scrapped with broken chassis)
From 1967 to '87 Black de Luxe Javelin MKC 1 (later 6469TU). (Sold as non-runner with tons of spares, 1987)
From about 1980 to '87 ex WD Jowett stationary engine. (Sold on)
From 1966 to present, 1930 Long Four Fabric Saloon, Dark Blue / Black.
Taken in a part-repaired state to the 2010 Centenary Rally, returned to a roadworthy state by 2013. - Given Name: Ian
- Location: Eastbourne, East Sussex, England
- Contact:
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I may have found a source of an acceptable substitute for the decorative upholstery ribbon on 1930ish cars.
It is in America but does look very promising. Try 'Patchwork Panda' in your search engine, and then 'Jaquard ribbon'.
You have to go a long way through their catalogue before you get to anything similar to 'ours', but it could be worth the hunt.
Happy huntimg!
It is in America but does look very promising. Try 'Patchwork Panda' in your search engine, and then 'Jaquard ribbon'.
You have to go a long way through their catalogue before you get to anything similar to 'ours', but it could be worth the hunt.
Happy huntimg!
The devil is in the detail!
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AlanBartlett
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1936 Jowett Lorry (A basket case)
1953 Jowett Bradford Lorry - Given Name: Alan
- Location: Somerset
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Does anyone have a picture of the inside rail of the bonnet catch mechanism? I'm 90 percent certain ive put mine together the right way, but they never seem to lock at both ends of bonnet, and have a habbit of coming undone when on the road, as well as rubbing on paint work when they come undone, so need to rectify this problem.
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