Vintage Jowett on eBay.

Tony Fearn · Post by **Tony Fearn** » Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:51 pm

This vintage Jowett long two was on show at the Centenary rally at Wakefield last weekend.

It's now for sale on eBay if anyone is interested.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1928-JOWETT-2-SEA ... 4aa1dc5a12

Give me a ring if you're far away, a Jowett Club member, and are coming to view the vehicle. (phone no. in membership list). It's not mine, but it's only about a mile away from chez moi

Tony.

kemp1942 · Post by **kemp1942** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 2:00 pm

It was sold from the Museum in November 2009 for (with buyers premium) Â£4140 by Bonhams Auctioneers.
Presumably the current seller was the buyer then

Chris Spencer · Post by **Chris Spencer** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:18 pm

I think the price is slightly on the heavy side - Where would you pitch it Tony ?

Tony Fearn · Post by **Tony Fearn** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:12 pm

A little bird tells me that it's provisionally sold, and it's running with an MOT and a Tax disc, so it's irrelevant what we all think about the price.

Perhaps we're behind the times. Just look at what Jupiters are bringing.

There again, it's an interesting registration number.

Tony.

kemp1942 · Post by **kemp1942** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:44 pm

ebay ad said 'one new tyre fitted for MOT' - that suggests 3 may be illegal due to age !!

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Sat Jun 05, 2010 9:20 pm

kemp1942 wrote:ebay ad said 'one new tyre fitted for MOT' - that suggests 3 may be illegal due to age !!

Wouldn't it fail MOT if they were?

I assume that one was required due to tread depth or other problem with one tyre, and all others were safe and legal standard to pass MOT.

The way the MOT test has gone something as visible as tyres won't get skipped by any MOT tester, the sanctions from VOSA are severe and swift and they won't risk it in anything like the way they used to when something wasn't to standard.

Jack.

kemp1942 · Post by **kemp1942** » Sat Jun 05, 2010 10:44 pm

Just have a very close look at tyres of cars at other/all makes rallies - cars with current tax, therefore MOT's, and see what I mean.

I know for a fact some testers don't check the date of manufacture code on the tyre so if no cracks showing the age will not be picked up !

These testers may well be in the minority but they do exist

Peter Holden · Post by **Peter Holden** » Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:20 am

As I understand it - there is no legal requirement for the age of tyres - it is only a recommendation - we do not want a legal requirement to replace tyres when they reach a specific age! If such a law was introduced then that would become a hugh expence for us all. Tyres for are about Â£90-00 each and I personally would not be happy replacing them when they are still fully servicable. When they become worn and defective then thats fine.
Just had a new pair put on the Jup. They were getting low but still sound without any defects. One was 1957 and the other 1959

Chris Spencer · Post by **Chris Spencer** » Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:04 am

The recomendations are that tyres are replaced once they are in excess of 10 years old regardless of wear - rubber / tyres do age with time hence becoming unfit for use.

I for one would not run a vehicle with tyres over this age, it is my pride & joy and more to the point my life and that of others that depends upon them.

You may find and I know of someone that this has happened to - that in the event of tyre used behond the recommended age life - that becomes defective to the point it expires while in actual use i.e. blowout (as it was in the case in question) and that blowout leads to a accident - that your insurance company will be unwilling to accept any libility.

The case in question was a MGC on tyres with little wear and showing 7mm tread all round - however - the underwiters proved that the owner had not maintained the vehicle in a roadworthy condition (a requirement of the insurance provider) because the tyres were 18 years old when the nearside front suffered a blowout resuting in the vehicle impacting a stone wall. The tyre manufacture recommended changing the tyres at 10 years old regardless of wear to the tread.

Result - the owner escaped without any injury but with a vehicle that was a non recoverable loss valued at Â£10,000.

I have just made a quite large expedenture on one of my classics that has covered less than 20,000 miles from new - for the last 20 years it has been museum displayed - there was 8mm tread on the tyres but they were 27 years old - further more the same chain of thought should be given to rubber seals like brake caliper, master, wheel & slave cylinder along with rubber brake hoses - I would recommend that these are replaced on a 20 - 30 year cycle or sooner dependant upon if the vehicle is stored for a period (rubber seals tend to harden / perish / crack sooner when they are not in use / unlubricted)

I am not here to scare monger but you have to be realistic about what you are asking a tyre to do - for the sake of Â£500 for a decent set of new tyres ( over a 10 year / 20,000 mile use period thats Â£50 a year !!! ) are you prepared to take such risks ?

p.p. · Post by **p.p.** » Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:12 am

had the same problem with the moggie, the tires got hard and the distanc of way when i brake where 2 time's of a new one, got 4 new ....safety first.
the other car got ABS and, and...the modern young people dont now old car's long brake way's and slower accleration... to stop to put the first gear in is just not understud by them.

when you had a crash and old hard tyres you get a problem...