Transverse Stay parts

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Transverse Stay parts

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On returning home from the rally I got underneath and greased Yellow Peril all round, not forgetting the steering column and gear change grease points, of course!

I noticed the Transverse Stay rubbers looked a little ‘tired’ so I resolved to replace them, ordering them from JCS. My question (which as usual coming from me is a daft one!) is how does it all fit together?

I am assuming the Parts Book illustration shows that the left side of the Stay fits to the top of the rear axle and the right side fits to the inner wing. I would like confirmation that this is correct please.

In addition looking at the Parts Book, as well as four rubbers or pads (Part No 50271) and four cups (Part No 50270), which seem pretty self explanatory, there is a Retaining Stay Rod Bush (Part No 53352), a Thrust Stay Bar Pad (Part No 53353) and two Transverse Stay Distance Pieces (Part No 50490). The latter two pieces are NOT illustrated so I don’t know where they fit!

I would be very grateful if someone could let me know which pieces go where, especially the Retaining Stay Rod Bush, the Thrust Stay Bar Pad and the Distance Pieces.

Thanks

Paul
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Re: Transverse Stay parts

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Hi Paul,

It was a super Rally and I was glad you got home safely. I changed the rubbers on my Transverse Stay about two years ago. It was straightforward and, like in a Haynes Manual, re-assemby is the reverse of dismantling! Looking at the Parts Illustration in the Jowett Gallery, the left hand or lower end in the illustration of the rod in the picture goes through the inner wing, with the right-hand or upper part of the rod in the illistration going through the bracket on the rear axle.

I am at a loss to explain your part number 50490. It doesn't appear in my illustration? The reason may be that Jowett's changed the length of the transverse stay when they went to the full hydraulic axle and maybe some parts were deleted? If you are looking at an older parts list for the hydro-mechanical axle, then this may be the answer? What model is your car? I guessed that it is the full hydraulic model?

Otherwise, it all should be fairly straightforward. Jowett's omited to put a pair of flats on the rod to hold it when you are tightening it all up. I used a pair of mole grips, but I will probably get into trouble for admitting this!

Hope this helps,

All the best,

David
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Re: Transverse Stay parts

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Thanks for the info David (yet again). Have you ever thought of moving 'up north'? (!)

I ordered the parts from JCS on Monday evening and this morning (Thursday) they arrived! How brilliant is that? I really take my hat off to them. Wonderful service! Anyway they confirmed that part No 50490 refers to a Jupiter accelerator part!
My model is an E2 PD deluxe with full hydraulic brakes but before Jowetts went over to the rubber bushed suspension.

I have parts booklets for PC and PD models. The PC booklet does not illustrate it but it details Part No 50490 “Transverse Stay Distance Piece” x 2. This, even though the PC model illustrated in the booklet is fully hydraulic braking! The PD booklet does not mention this part. So I think you are correct. The part must have been discontinued. Confusing or what?

Thanks for your advice again David

All the best to you and Juliet.

Paul
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Re: Transverse Stay parts

Post by David Morris »

Hi Paul,

Yes, JCS give us an excellent service and I am glad the parts arrived ok. It should be an easy job, but do let me know if there are any problems. I recommend plenty of Plus Gas on the threads before you try to undo them, especially on the wheelarch end!

All the best,

David
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Re: Transverse Stay parts

Post by Keith Clements »

Note the transverse stays are different for Jup and Jav and there may be different stays for the two different Jav axles. I think the cups and rubbers are the same though, but I have not checked in the parts manual.

By the way, has anybody an early parts manual (PA or PB) they can scan in or send me so to do?
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Re: Transverse Stay parts

Post by David Morris »

Hi Keith,

I think you are right. From the part numbers, the later transverse rod retained the original pads and cup washers. However, the later axle had, I think, a different length differential casing and therefore needed a different length transverse rod.

I have looked, but sorry I don't have an early parts list. However, there are some pages of the early list on Jowett Gallery. Not sure why the whole listing isn't there, but it covers the early front suspension so may be useful to you? Otherwise, the Jowett shop are currently advertising an early parts list for £25. Perhaps they could loan it to you for copying onto the Gallery?

Hope this is useful?

Regards,

David
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